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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.03pm
Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window? It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.03pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window?

It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago.

COYP

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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.08pm
TP must be getting more and more frustrated by the day as all the other clubs around us are bringing in new players. There are only a certain number of players available that would improve on what we have and Hull, Cardiff,Fulham,Swansea,Norwich,West Ham, West Brom are all looking at the same players, If we cannot match them financially we will end up bringing the same standard forwards that we already have. If like Browett says their is a sizeable budget, added with that the funds that TP must have made available by getting players like Kebe off the wage bill then between the mass of people involved in transfer negotiations we need to bite the bullet and get our business done if we want to survive this season.
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Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.08pm

TP must be getting more and more frustrated by the day as all the other clubs around us are bringing in new players. There are only a certain number of players available that would improve on what we have and Hull, Cardiff,Fulham,Swansea,Norwich,West Ham, West Brom are all looking at the same players, If we cannot match them financially we will end up bringing the same standard forwards that we already have. If like Browett says their is a sizeable budget, added with that the funds that TP must have made available by getting players like Kebe off the wage bill then between the mass of people involved in transfer negotiations we need to bite the bullet and get our business done if we want to survive this season.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 26 Jan 14 1.09pm
Quote ragatony at 26 Jan 2014 12.58pm braunstoneagle i know he is doing a good job,but i still prefer the owners choice of player signings over his. ---------------------------------------------------- I presume your on a wind up with a comment like that. No...no wind up whatsoever. Younger hungrier players with resale value over 30y/o+ with high wages and no resale value any day. Makes financial sense...I wouldn't want us to sign peter crouch on 50k a week...not in a month of Sundays. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Quote ragatony at 26 Jan 2014 12.58pm

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i know he is doing a good job,but i still prefer the owners choice of player signings over his.
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I presume your on a wind up with a comment like that.

No...no wind up whatsoever.

Younger hungrier players with resale value over 30y/o+ with high wages and no resale value any day.

Makes financial sense...I wouldn't want us to sign peter crouch on 50k a week...not in a month of Sundays.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.10pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.03pm Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window? It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago. Steve Browett went to Hong Kong and around that region, Parish went to Barbados for 10 days
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Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.10pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.03pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window?

It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago.

Steve Browett went to Hong Kong and around that region, Parish went to Barbados for 10 days

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.11pm
Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.11pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.14pm
Quote bubble wrap at 26 Jan 2014 1.10pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.03pm Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window? It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago. Steve Browett went to Hong Kong and around that region, Parish went to Barbados for 10 days I thought Hambo said Browett went away and Parish didn't. Still, he or they went away for 10 days and not 31, and not at the end of the window when they'll really want to be an arm's length away. You can still have your say via email, text or phone call for the 1st 10 days and Moody or another owner communicate thoughts. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.14pm

Quote bubble wrap at 26 Jan 2014 1.10pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.03pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

You do have question why Parish went on holiday in the transfer window?

It was Steve Browett who went to Barbados a few weeks ago.

Steve Browett went to Hong Kong and around that region, Parish went to Barbados for 10 days

I thought Hambo said Browett went away and Parish didn't. Still, he or they went away for 10 days and not 31, and not at the end of the window when they'll really want to be an arm's length away. You can still have your say via email, text or phone call for the 1st 10 days and Moody or another owner communicate thoughts.

COYP

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movingforward 26 Jan 14 1.17pm
Don’t get me wrong I am a massive Parish fan and think he has done more for our club than anyone in decades but I believe his role at the club needs addressing before we lose our 3rd manager in quick succession. Parish has no real knowledge of football, he is NOT a football man yet professes to know everything about the game. He is trying to run the club including the team. He needs to quit micro managing. Isn’t it his role to provide a budget for his manager then leave the buying and selling of players to the management team? Why did Freedman leave? I believe he had big issues with Parish so wanted out. Parish later admitted in hindsight he could and should of done more to keep Freedman at Palace. Why did Holloway leave? I believe Holloway found Parish too draining with his constant helicopter (hovering over him) micro managing of everything Holloway did. “I fear the day when the technology overlaps with our humanity. The world will only have a generation of idiots.” ~ Albert Einstein
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26 Jan 14 1.17pm

Don’t get me wrong I am a massive Parish fan and think he has done more for our club than anyone in decades but I believe his role at the club needs addressing before we lose our 3rd manager in quick succession.

Parish has no real knowledge of football, he is NOT a football man yet professes to know everything about the game.
He is trying to run the club including the team. He needs to quit micro managing. Isn’t it his role to provide a budget for his manager then leave the buying and selling of players to the management team?

Why did Freedman leave? I believe he had big issues with Parish so wanted out. Parish later admitted in hindsight he could and should of done more to keep Freedman at Palace.
Why did Holloway leave? I believe Holloway found Parish too draining with his constant helicopter (hovering over him) micro managing of everything Holloway did.

“I fear the day when the technology overlaps with our humanity. The world will only have a generation of idiots.” ~
Albert Einstein

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Green Bin Carshalton Beeches 26 Jan 14 1.19pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.11pm Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong. Pretty true I reckon...also can you imagine the flack the board would have got if DF was in charge when the Zaha transfer happend, and KG and GM went off the boil etc etc and he didn't get us promoted...lots of stuff about in-experenced managers on the cheap being left in charge!
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Carshalton Beeches 26 Jan 14 1.19pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.11pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong.

Pretty true I reckon...also can you imagine the flack the board would have got if DF was in charge when the Zaha transfer happend, and KG and GM went off the boil etc etc and he didn't get us promoted...lots of stuff about in-experenced managers on the cheap being left in charge!

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.26pm
Quote Green Bin at 26 Jan 2014 1.19pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.11pm Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went? The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong. Pretty true I reckon...also can you imagine the flack the board would have got if DF was in charge when the Zaha transfer happend, and KG and GM went off the boil etc etc and he didn't get us promoted...lots of stuff about in-experenced managers on the cheap being left in charge! DF changed his mind on Zaha going. When at CPFC he wanted Zaha to stay, then at Bolton and in front of the press, he thought he should be at Man Utd. Never trust his word. He'll blame everyone else if it doesn't pan out, as he's currently doing, and his squad were originally "Prem quality", then not, then they went on a great run, then bottled it vs IH's Blackpool, then £6mil spent, then a sh1t run, then a good run, now another sh1t run. On the face of that, SP hasn't come out of it too badly. COYP
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Caterham 26 Jan 14 1.26pm

Quote Green Bin at 26 Jan 2014 1.19pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 1.11pm

Quote sidman at 26 Jan 2014 12.48pm

Who knows if the story is true or not, but you do have to think is this why Dougie Freedman went?

The old Dougie conspiracy question again. DF made a calculated move as a rookie to a team with a bigger budget and got it wrong.

DF changed his mind on Zaha going. When at CPFC he wanted Zaha to stay, then at Bolton and in front of the press, he thought he should be at Man Utd. Never trust his word. He'll blame everyone else if it doesn't pan out, as he's currently doing, and his squad were originally "Prem quality", then not, then they went on a great run, then bottled it vs IH's Blackpool, then £6mil spent, then a sh1t run, then a good run, now another sh1t run. On the face of that, SP hasn't come out of it too badly.

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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.27pm
Quote movingforward at 26 Jan 2014 1.17pm Don’t get me wrong I am a massive Parish fan and think he has done more for our club than anyone in decades but I believe his role at the club needs addressing before we lose our 3rd manager in quick succession. Parish has no real knowledge of football, he is NOT a football man yet professes to know everything about the game. He is trying to run the club including the team. He needs to quit micro managing. Isn’t it his role to provide a budget for his manager then leave the buying and selling of players to the management team? Why did Freedman leave? I believe he had big issues with Parish so wanted out. Parish later admitted in hindsight he could and should of done more to keep Freedman at Palace. Why did Holloway leave? I believe Holloway found Parish too draining with his constant helicopter (hovering over him) micro managing of everything Holloway did. Very good post. Fully Agree. Parish is trying to run the club as a business but things are different.
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Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 14 1.27pm

Quote movingforward at 26 Jan 2014 1.17pm

Very good post. Fully Agree. Parish is trying to run the club as a business but things are different.

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homes New Eltham 26 Jan 14 1.30pm
Quote braunstoneagle at 26 Jan 2014 1.09pm Quote ragatony at 26 Jan 2014 12.58pm braunstoneagle i know he is doing a good job,but i still prefer the owners choice of player signings over his. ---------------------------------------------------- I presume your on a wind up with a comment like that. No...no wind up whatsoever. Younger hungrier players with resale value over 30y/o+ with high wages and no resale value any day. Makes financial sense...I wouldn't want us to sign peter crouch on 50k a week...not in a month of Sundays. I agree with brauny IH: "I thought Jonny and Wilf were brilliant but it took a 39 year old master to watch the ball and keep his eye on it to finish it".
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New Eltham 26 Jan 14 1.30pm

Quote braunstoneagle at 26 Jan 2014 1.09pm

Quote ragatony at 26 Jan 2014 12.58pm

No...no wind up whatsoever.

Younger hungrier players with resale value over 30y/o+ with high wages and no resale value any day.

Makes financial sense...I wouldn't want us to sign peter crouch on 50k a week...not in a month of Sundays.

I agree with brauny

IH: "I thought Jonny and Wilf were brilliant but it took a 39 year old master to watch the ball and keep his eye on it to finish it".

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Booted Eagle Bristol 26 Jan 14 1.35pm
Quote geoff at 26 Jan 2014 12.50pm I can't help but feel there is too much interference from SP. TP would have known the transfer budget for January and would have known the salary limits. As long as the players he wants fits with both of those he should be allowed to get in anyone he wants. He is responsible for the playing staff and one of his objectives is to keep us up or so we are led to believe. Let him do his job without false promises or one hand tied behind his back. If he think crouch can do a job and keep us up and is within wage structure and transfer budget then he should be allowed to get him. I'm not saying that crouch is the man but just using him as an example. If promises were made to TP to accept the job that are not stuck to then of course I think he would walk. Wouldn't you? He has a million pound bonus (supposedly) for keeping us up. If his ability to achieve that bonus is being hampered by interference then why would he stay. If your example concerning a player that the manager wants is true,that fits the wagebill, within transfer budget, willing to come etc. and the owners say no then there is an issue between them regarding broken promises. However nobody can fix a transfer to meet these requirements as they are fluid based on the negotiations. So there might well be no promises broken but the fact that the owners and manager do not wish for the club to be taken for a ride ? Personally I would rather know that there are some limits being imposed than an open cheque book philosophy. The manager might go in the summer but I don't think it will be down to broken promises. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Quote geoff at 26 Jan 2014 12.50pm

I can't help but feel there is too much interference from SP. TP would have known the transfer budget for January and would have known the salary limits. As long as the players he wants fits with both of those he should be allowed to get in anyone he wants. He is responsible for the playing staff and one of his objectives is to keep us up or so we are led to believe. Let him do his job without false promises or one hand tied behind his back. If he think crouch can do a job and keep us up and is within wage structure and transfer budget then he should be allowed to get him.
I'm not saying that crouch is the man but just using him as an example.
If promises were made to TP to accept the job that are not stuck to then of course I think he would walk. Wouldn't you? He has a million pound bonus (supposedly) for keeping us up. If his ability to achieve that bonus is being hampered by interference then why would he stay.

If your example concerning a player that the manager wants is true,that fits the wagebill, within transfer budget, willing to come etc. and the owners say no then there is an issue between them regarding broken promises. However nobody can fix a transfer to meet these requirements as they are fluid based on the negotiations. So there might well be no promises broken but the fact that the owners and manager do not wish for the club to be taken for a ride ? Personally I would rather know that there are some limits being imposed than an open cheque book philosophy. The manager might go in the summer but I don't think it will be down to broken promises.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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