For me Dann and Gabbs are the partnership, but I can see TP getting the younger duo together rather than the older DG. I've just been incredibly ageist. I feel good.

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Ince-- Nice way to introduce himself! Was very impressed with how dangerous he was with and without the ball and looks like a million well spent!

Ledley-- That was one of the better headers I've seen in a long time. How many times have we seen those kinda of whipped in crosses miss the target completely? Looking forward to watching him play his natural position.

Danns-- Early days. Fingers crossed TP turns him into a rock in defense. Looked a step slow but new surroundings maybe we was just trying to get the feel of being in a new situation.

Oct 26 2002-- Palace 5 Weed 0!!!

Goddammit, his name is DANN.. no s

Ince - Great debut, good goal, plenty of skill and a lot of hard work - the latter point coming as a bit of a surprise to me. Good signing and, should we stay up, hopefully on a long term contract from July.

Ledley - Very intelligent, an okay left back but far, far better in midfield. He makes space for himself and went unnoticed for his goal. Not too many teams expect the oppositions left back to be on the near post for a corner taken from the right.

Dann - Looked okay but understandably still at an early stage in getting an understanding with DD. This was the reason we were more shaky than usual at the back but I have no doubt he will become a very good signing.

Murray - Well he seems like a new signing to me. Stood up and applauded the TV as he came on - great moment.

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Are the three we've seen better than what we already had ?

Absolutely !

Can't wonder why Ledley was positioned at 'Left Back' for the Baggies match. Everyone on here has mentioned it's not his natural position. Don't we have at least 2 adequate Left Back defenders already who aren't injured.

It just seems an odd choice when Ledley hadn't even played a competitive match with the team and his knowledge of the players around him are limited.

I'm not knocking it because it turned out to be a good decision to put him there. Having said that I would have put him in a more natural position for him in these early games.

I'm not TP though lol.