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goodersgold Hastings 17 Mar 14 12.26pm
Quote silvertop at 17 Mar 2014 11.34am Quote goodersgold at 17 Mar 2014 10.54am I vote we do whatever it takes to stay up this season. A little awkward picking out those splinters from your behind Gooders? I won't sit on the fence I'll stand on it, What I mean is I trust TP to do what he thinks is right after all he has been there before (stayed up) got the t shirt . I will just turn up every week back the team and players because at the moment I think we are doing just fine and a lot better than I expected so I'm actually quite happy. If we go down I can debate what we might of done then. The world was a mess but his hair was perfect!
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Hastings 17 Mar 14 12.26pm

Quote silvertop at 17 Mar 2014 11.34am

Quote goodersgold at 17 Mar 2014 10.54am

I vote we do whatever it takes to stay up this season.

A little awkward picking out those splinters from your behind Gooders?

I won't sit on the fence I'll stand on it,
What I mean is I trust TP to do what he thinks is right after all he has been there before (stayed up) got the t shirt .
I will just turn up every week back the team and players because at the moment I think we are doing just fine and a lot better than I expected so I'm actually quite happy.
If we go down I can debate what we might of done then.

The world was a mess but his hair was perfect!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Mar 14 12.52pm
Quote bubble wrap at 17 Mar 2014 11.56am Morons are on overdrive last 7 days. Point at Swansea and Sunderland should be congratulated. If we attacked them more we probably would have lost giving them vital points. As TP said they were no lose games. We didn't so job done. Points over performance is more important. A lot of people seem to mistake how they feel for what is real. Obviously we all wanted 3 pts from every game, especially the Sunderland game. But we went to what they considered a MUST win game, and held them to a draw. They threw everything they could at us, and we came away with a point. They have two games in hand on us, but given they're Man City and Liverpool I'm not too worried. West Brom's win was the only real upset. Fulham's win over newcastle seemed more fluke than gain, and Evertons last minute winner emotionally broke a very plucky cardiff "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote bubble wrap at 17 Mar 2014 11.56am

Morons are on overdrive last 7 days.
Point at Swansea and Sunderland should be congratulated. If we attacked them more we probably would have lost giving them vital points. As TP said they were no lose games. We didn't so job done. Points over performance is more important.

A lot of people seem to mistake how they feel for what is real. Obviously we all wanted 3 pts from every game, especially the Sunderland game. But we went to what they considered a MUST win game, and held them to a draw. They threw everything they could at us, and we came away with a point. They have two games in hand on us, but given they're Man City and Liverpool I'm not too worried.

West Brom's win was the only real upset. Fulham's win over newcastle seemed more fluke than gain, and Evertons last minute winner emotionally broke a very plucky cardiff

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Eggy Sutton 17 Mar 14 1.01pm
At times I think the negative / defensive tactics simply reflect the nature of the games - e.g. the ones we simply cannot afford to lose (most recently Swansea and Sunderland away). While we can't afford to lose any game, I think our record and points haul against teams in the bottom 10, the 'must not lose' games, is probably the best of all the teams scrapping against relegation. Unfortunately, some of the other teams have been able to pick-up some 'freak / suprise' results against the big-boys, the games in which I think we've shown more ambition, but not been able to nick a point. I'd rather lose to Southampton or Moan Utd than Sunderland, Swansea, WBA, Cardiff, Villa etc., given our current situation, and if that's achieved by defensive tactics at this stage, then it's a D from me.
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Sutton 17 Mar 14 1.01pm

At times I think the negative / defensive tactics simply reflect the nature of the games - e.g. the ones we simply cannot afford to lose (most recently Swansea and Sunderland away).

While we can't afford to lose any game, I think our record and points haul against teams in the bottom 10, the 'must not lose' games, is probably the best of all the teams scrapping against relegation. Unfortunately, some of the other teams have been able to pick-up some 'freak / suprise' results against the big-boys, the games in which I think we've shown more ambition, but not been able to nick a point.

I'd rather lose to Southampton or Moan Utd than Sunderland, Swansea, WBA, Cardiff, Villa etc., given our current situation, and if that's achieved by defensive tactics at this stage, then it's a D from me.

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songsta New Addington 17 Mar 14 1.12pm
I just wonder if all the D voters would think back if we went down and wonder 'what if we had had more ambition and gone for more games'. Tough call as you could say the same in reverse ie The A's saying what if blah blah blah, We are all different people with different views and personality types. For me I would rather go down fighting rather than with a wimper and thats with weighing up the risks and reward. So a big FAT A from me.
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New Addington 17 Mar 14 1.12pm

I just wonder if all the D voters would think back if we went down and wonder 'what if we had had more ambition and gone for more games'.

Tough call as you could say the same in reverse ie The A's saying what if blah blah blah,

We are all different people with different views and personality types.

For me I would rather go down fighting rather than with a wimper and thats with weighing up the risks and reward.

So a big FAT A from me.

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cols123 beckenham 17 Mar 14 1.12pm
whichever way gets us 3 points - thats all that matters.
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beckenham 17 Mar 14 1.12pm

whichever way gets us 3 points - thats all that matters.

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radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 17 Mar 14 1.30pm

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From Coventry now in Leicester 17 Mar 14 1.30pm

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 17 Mar 14 1.57pm
I Just have 2 words IAN HOLLOWAY
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WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 17 Mar 14 1.57pm

I Just have 2 words

IAN HOLLOWAY

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dynamicdick Dormansland 17 Mar 14 3.15pm
I am sure that any Palace fan worth his or her salt wants a change of manager (don't know where thats come from). The risk of playing near ultra defensive is that if we do go a goal down we will have to change our style of play anyway. We do need to increase our % possession as if not we are forever under pressure and sods law is that we will concede. No doubt TP has plans b and c in his locker, which is why he has the lacks of Bannon on the bench. Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 17 Mar 14 3.15pm

I am sure that any Palace fan worth his or her salt wants a change of manager (don't know where thats come from). The risk of playing near ultra defensive is that if we do go a goal down we will have to change our style of play anyway. We do need to increase our % possession as if not we are forever under pressure and sods law is that we will concede. No doubt TP has plans b and c in his locker, which is why he has the lacks of Bannon on the bench.

Bring back Brolin

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Uphill Online Bedford 17 Mar 14 3.40pm
Be realistic. We don't have the basic skills to hold and pass the ball especially when our two best (Williams and Garvan) have been shipped out on loan. Therefore we have no option than to play as we do and hope for a lucky win here or there or, possibly, draw all our remaining matches - both very long shots. If we do manage to survive (which is looking more dicey by the week) we can then address our style of play for next season but until then we must stay up, no matter how ugly it looks.
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Bedford 17 Mar 14 3.40pm

Be realistic.
We don't have the basic skills to hold and pass the ball especially when our two best (Williams and Garvan) have been shipped out on loan.
Therefore we have no option than to play as we do and hope for a lucky win here or there or, possibly, draw all our remaining matches - both very long shots.
If we do manage to survive (which is looking more dicey by the week) we can then address our style of play for next season but until then we must stay up, no matter how ugly it looks.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Mar 14 4.09pm
Quote Uphill at 17 Mar 2014 3.40pm Be realistic. We don't have the basic skills to hold and pass the ball especially when our two best (Williams and Garvan) have been shipped out on loan. Therefore we have no option than to play as we do and hope for a lucky win here or there or, possibly, draw all our remaining matches - both very long shots. If we do manage to survive (which is looking more dicey by the week) we can then address our style of play for next season but until then we must stay up, no matter how ugly it looks. Williams, yeah maybe, but Garvan wasn't even our best midfielder, let alone best player. Tackle shirker for two seasons, who only improved because we played KG and Jedinek behind him. Not much better than Carl Fletcher or Nicky Carle. at some point in his future. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 17 Mar 14 4.09pm

Quote Uphill at 17 Mar 2014 3.40pm

Be realistic.
We don't have the basic skills to hold and pass the ball especially when our two best (Williams and Garvan) have been shipped out on loan.
Therefore we have no option than to play as we do and hope for a lucky win here or there or, possibly, draw all our remaining matches - both very long shots.
If we do manage to survive (which is looking more dicey by the week) we can then address our style of play for next season but until then we must stay up, no matter how ugly it looks.

Williams*, yeah maybe, but Garvan wasn't even our best midfielder, let alone best player. Tackle shirker for two seasons, who only improved because we played KG and Jedinek behind him. Not much better than Carl Fletcher or Nicky Carle.

* at some point in his future.

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 17 Mar 14 4.14pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Mar 2014 4.09pm Quote Uphill at 17 Mar 2014 3.40pm Be realistic. We don't have the basic skills to hold and pass the ball especially when our two best (Williams and Garvan) have been shipped out on loan. Therefore we have no option than to play as we do and hope for a lucky win here or there or, possibly, draw all our remaining matches - both very long shots. If we do manage to survive (which is looking more dicey by the week) we can then address our style of play for next season but until then we must stay up, no matter how ugly it looks. Williams, yeah maybe, but Garvan wasn't even our best midfielder, let alone best player. Tackle shirker for two seasons, who only improved because we played KG and Jedinek behind him. Not much better than Carl Fletcher or Nicky Carle. at some point in his future. TBF Carl Fletcher was better then Garvan and Carle by a long way. I thought anyway, I liked Fletch.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 17 Mar 2014 4.09pm

Quote Uphill at 17 Mar 2014 3.40pm

* at some point in his future.

TBF Carl Fletcher was better then Garvan and Carle by a long way. I thought anyway, I liked Fletch.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Mar 14 4.17pm
Quote dynamicdick at 17 Mar 2014 3.15pm I am sure that any Palace fan worth his or her salt wants a change of manager (don't know where thats come from). The risk of playing near ultra defensive is that if we do go a goal down we will have to change our style of play anyway. We do need to increase our % possession as if not we are forever under pressure and sods law is that we will concede. No doubt TP has plans b and c in his locker, which is why he has the lacks of Bannon on the bench. My salt must be worthless. I think we have one of the most underated and overachieving, hardworking managers in the history of the premier league, and football league. Never relegated, and turned Stoke from mediocrity into a premiership team that even the biggest clubs considered a point away from home a good result. Him and Martinez are probably the third and fourth best managers in the league, after Winging Wanger and Moanrinio - and both have achieved that on a fraction of the glamour or budget of those two. It might not be pretty, but our football rarely has been for as long as I can remember. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote dynamicdick at 17 Mar 2014 3.15pm

I am sure that any Palace fan worth his or her salt wants a change of manager (don't know where thats come from). The risk of playing near ultra defensive is that if we do go a goal down we will have to change our style of play anyway. We do need to increase our % possession as if not we are forever under pressure and sods law is that we will concede. No doubt TP has plans b and c in his locker, which is why he has the lacks of Bannon on the bench.

My salt must be worthless. I think we have one of the most underated and overachieving, hardworking managers in the history of the premier league, and football league. Never relegated, and turned Stoke from mediocrity into a premiership team that even the biggest clubs considered a point away from home a good result.

Him and Martinez are probably the third and fourth best managers in the league, after Winging Wanger and Moanrinio - and both have achieved that on a fraction of the glamour or budget of those two.

It might not be pretty, but our football rarely has been for as long as I can remember.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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