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TheJudge Flag 21 Aug 15 3.57pm

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Debunked by people like you I expect Ghostweazel.

Keep it civil please.


We have previous on the BBS.

 

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It might be fair to point out that we are discussing Britain here, which is overwhelmingly white in most areas.
The pakistani community represents only a few percent of the population yet people among their number have been responsible for numerous multiple sexual abuse cases around the country.

There is a major problem here that we have imported and no amount of political correctness should stop people from saying so.
These kind of circumstances appear to justify those who were afraid that mass immigration would bring us a whole host of problems that we didn't have before.
The liberal left always have some argument lined up for denial and play the race card as usual, but facts are facts.

Edited by TheJudge (21 Aug 2015 12.12pm)


What you saying is is that it is disproportionate. It's at this point that you need to back it up with some evidence. Not saying you are wrong. It is you who is playing the race card btw.


The evidence speaks for itself. Take the number of convictions for pakistani men and divide it by the population. It's not difficult.
It is your type of attitude that allowed the whole business to go on for so long.

About 0.003% rounded up, give or take.

In fact if we take every conviction in the UK for Child Sex Offences (including Scotland but not NI), it would be 0.16% of the 'pakistani' population.
The evidence really doesn't speak for itself at all.


A sex abuse ring of particular pakistani men in half a dozen towns in Britain when the population of these men is tiny and you don't see this as a disproportionate number. Amazing.

You don't appear to have taken in that the figures have just been used to prove that it is not disproportionate. If you go through the post again you will see that it uses facts and figures to debunk what is a most malicious myth.

 

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TheJudge Flag 21 Aug 15 4.15pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 4.02pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 3.55pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.08pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.19pm

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Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.11pm

It might be fair to point out that we are discussing Britain here, which is overwhelmingly white in most areas.
The pakistani community represents only a few percent of the population yet people among their number have been responsible for numerous multiple sexual abuse cases around the country.

There is a major problem here that we have imported and no amount of political correctness should stop people from saying so.
These kind of circumstances appear to justify those who were afraid that mass immigration would bring us a whole host of problems that we didn't have before.
The liberal left always have some argument lined up for denial and play the race card as usual, but facts are facts.

Edited by TheJudge (21 Aug 2015 12.12pm)


What you saying is is that it is disproportionate. It's at this point that you need to back it up with some evidence. Not saying you are wrong. It is you who is playing the race card btw.


The evidence speaks for itself. Take the number of convictions for pakistani men and divide it by the population. It's not difficult.
It is your type of attitude that allowed the whole business to go on for so long.

About 0.003% rounded up, give or take.

In fact if we take every conviction in the UK for Child Sex Offences (including Scotland but not NI), it would be 0.16% of the 'pakistani' population.
The evidence really doesn't speak for itself at all.


A sex abuse ring of particular pakistani men in half a dozen towns in Britain when the population of these men is tiny and you don't see this as a disproportionate number. Amazing.

You don't appear to have taken in that the figures have just been used to prove that it is not disproportionate. If you go through the post again you will see that it uses facts and figures to debunk what is a most malicious myth.


Extrapolate the amount of pakistani men who would be convicted if their population matched the wider population and then get back to me.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Aug 15 4.18pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 3.55pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Aug 2015 1.08pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.19pm

Quote Kermit8 at 21 Aug 2015 12.15pm

Quote TheJudge at 21 Aug 2015 12.11pm

It might be fair to point out that we are discussing Britain here, which is overwhelmingly white in most areas.
The pakistani community represents only a few percent of the population yet people among their number have been responsible for numerous multiple sexual abuse cases around the country.

There is a major problem here that we have imported and no amount of political correctness should stop people from saying so.
These kind of circumstances appear to justify those who were afraid that mass immigration would bring us a whole host of problems that we didn't have before.
The liberal left always have some argument lined up for denial and play the race card as usual, but facts are facts.

Edited by TheJudge (21 Aug 2015 12.12pm)


What you saying is is that it is disproportionate. It's at this point that you need to back it up with some evidence. Not saying you are wrong. It is you who is playing the race card btw.


The evidence speaks for itself. Take the number of convictions for pakistani men and divide it by the population. It's not difficult.
It is your type of attitude that allowed the whole business to go on for so long.

About 0.003% rounded up, give or take.

In fact if we take every conviction in the UK for Child Sex Offences (including Scotland but not NI), it would be 0.16% of the 'pakistani' population.
The evidence really doesn't speak for itself at all.


A sex abuse ring of particular pakistani men in half a dozen towns in Britain when the population of these men is tiny and you don't see this as a disproportionate number. Amazing.

You said take the number of convictions and divide it by the population. I did, and it turned out to be only 0.16% of the population if every single conviction for child sex offences in a year was by a member of the pakistani community.

In actuality the finger is 0.003% of the pakistani community were convicted of child sex offences. As you said, its not difficult, and nor is it damning.


 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 21 Aug 15 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

 


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Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.

 

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Is there not somebody who can use a Churchill strategy of getting all the isis into a valley somewhere and then just nuke them. Old Churchill would not have hesitated but now we do not have anyone with the necessary balls!.

 

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Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.


The next Romanian.

 


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Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.


The next Romanian.


Or english/welsh, no better no worse. Which is pretty much what i had expected, the idea that one nationality is more likely to commit crimes than another is at the end of the day a bit silly.

 

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Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 6.18pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 21 Aug 2015 6.13pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 5.33pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.


The next Romanian.


Or english/welsh, no better no worse. Which is pretty much what i had expected, the idea that one nationality is more likely to commit crimes than another is at the end of the day a bit silly.


They're miles worse. Thievery is hard-wired into them.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 5.33pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.

Really? 7383 as a percentage of 101,000 is 7.3099%.
Perhaps you should get a new calculator or learn to use the one you have.
Of course the figure in reality is higher as some of the 101,000 would be children.


Edited by leggedstruggle (21 Aug 2015 6.29pm)

 


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