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matt_himself Matataland 28 Jan 15 7.40am
Quote nickgusset at 28 Jan 2015 7.21am Quote matt_himself at 28 Jan 2015 7.10am Oh dear! [Link] And it's from a a rabidly right wing source. It's brand new research, so one would imagine things will be adjusted. The green manifesto is out in March, whether the idea remains... 'Adjusted' means u-turned, doesn't it? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 28 Jan 15 7.40am

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Quote matt_himself at 28 Jan 2015 7.10am

Oh dear!

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And it's from a a rabidly right wing source.

It's brand new research, so one would imagine things will be adjusted. The green manifesto is out in March, whether the idea remains...

'Adjusted' means u-turned, doesn't it?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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npn Crowborough 28 Jan 15 7.41am
Quote Seth at 28 Jan 2015 1.25am Quote npn at 27 Jan 2015 5.44pm Quote Seth at 27 Jan 2015 5.16pm Quote reborn at 27 Jan 2015 5.10pm Quote Seth at 06 Dec 2014 2.16pm According to 470,522 surveys done on the website voteforpolicies, the Greens have to most popular policies out of them, Labour, LibDems, Tories, UKIP or the BNP: [Link] Some surprising results and you can take the test yourself and see who you should vote for on the site. I read the abridged version of their manifesto today, whilst there are some excellent and perfectly sane policies in there, some of them are absolute cuckoo TBH Have you tried the voteforpolicies survey I linked to? I tried it. I like what they are trying to achieve, but they are comparing apples and oranges (the alternatives are not related, for example, the question of raising the threshold you pay tax came up in three different sections at three different amounts, so if I strongly favour that, I'm likely to be voting for the party raising it to 11K, then the party raising it to 15.5, then the party raising it to 15). I actually think of myself as pretty middle-of the road (and I only did NHS, Welfare, Economy, and Eductaion) but I came out 75% Tory and 25% UKIP, which was a surprise! Maybe not so middle-of-the-road as you thought Well you do supposedly get more right wing as you get older. Sadly that survey seems to take fairly random policies broadly under a category and slap them together. I'd be much more interested in seeing the differences in the 'same' policy, i.e. We'd give all the unemployed a hug and a go on our wives We'd give all the unemployed a kick up the @rse We'd give all the unemployed a house and a yacht We'd give all the unemployed a ticket back to where they came from
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Quote Seth at 06 Dec 2014 2.16pm

According to 470,522 surveys done on the website voteforpolicies, the Greens have to most popular policies out of them, Labour, LibDems, Tories, UKIP or the BNP: [Link]

Some surprising results and you can take the test yourself and see who you should vote for on the site.

I read the abridged version of their manifesto today, whilst there are some excellent and perfectly sane policies in there, some of them are absolute cuckoo TBH

Have you tried the voteforpolicies survey I linked to?

I tried it. I like what they are trying to achieve, but they are comparing apples and oranges (the alternatives are not related, for example, the question of raising the threshold you pay tax came up in three different sections at three different amounts, so if I strongly favour that, I'm likely to be voting for the party raising it to 11K, then the party raising it to 15.5, then the party raising it to 15).

I actually think of myself as pretty middle-of the road (and I only did NHS, Welfare, Economy, and Eductaion) but I came out 75% Tory and 25% UKIP, which was a surprise!

Maybe not so middle-of-the-road as you thought

Well you do supposedly get more right wing as you get older.

Sadly that survey seems to take fairly random policies broadly under a category and slap them together. I'd be much more interested in seeing the differences in the 'same' policy, i.e.
We'd give all the unemployed a hug and a go on our wives
We'd give all the unemployed a kick up the @rse
We'd give all the unemployed a house and a yacht
We'd give all the unemployed a ticket back to where they came from

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Johnny Eagles berlin 29 Jan 15 2.18pm
[Link] Absolute car crash of an interview with Natalie Bennett. Andrew Neil takes her apart. Ouch. Farage she ain't. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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Absolute car crash of an interview with Natalie Bennett.
Andrew Neil takes her apart. Ouch. Farage she ain't.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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matt_himself Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.02pm
Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.07pm
Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)
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Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

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Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

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matt_himself Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.12pm
Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 29 Jan 15 9.29pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 29 Jan 2015 2.18pm [Link] Absolute car crash of an interview with Natalie Bennett. Andrew Neil takes her apart. Ouch. Farage she ain't. Yeah this was as painful as it was hilarious. I think Andrew Neil is fantastic by the way, presses the right buttons, exposes a lack of answered questions and extremely knowledgeable. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 29 Jan 2015 2.18pm

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Absolute car crash of an interview with Natalie Bennett.
Andrew Neil takes her apart. Ouch. Farage she ain't.

Yeah this was as painful as it was hilarious. I think Andrew Neil is fantastic by the way, presses the right buttons, exposes a lack of answered questions and extremely knowledgeable.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.30pm
Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. I will defend the greens education policies. There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids. Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability. Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school. There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.
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Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

I will defend the greens education policies.
There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids.
Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability.
Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school.

There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.

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matt_himself Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.32pm
Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. I will defend the greens education policies. There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids. Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability. Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school. There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother. No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.32pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.

No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.39pm
Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.32pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. I will defend the greens education policies. There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids. Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability. Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school. There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother. No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question. Sorry, can't understand that. I showed several ways in which the greens differ from the other parties. That is not dodging the question, that is answering it. Now I remember why I stopped engaging with you a while ago. BTW. I gave up playing what's the missing word. Can you enlighten us? Whilst I understand typing, writing can be an issue for you and sympathise, my advice to you would be the same as I give to my students. Read it back two or three times before handing in.
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Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.39pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.32pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.

No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question.

Sorry, can't understand that. I showed several ways in which the greens differ from the other parties. That is not dodging the question, that is answering it.
Now I remember why I stopped engaging with you a while ago.

BTW. I gave up playing what's the missing word. Can you enlighten us? Whilst I understand typing, writing can be an issue for you and sympathise, my advice to you would be the same as I give to my students. Read it back two or three times before handing in.

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matt_himself Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.45pm
Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.39pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.32pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. I will defend the greens education policies. There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids. Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability. Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school. There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother. No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question. Sorry, can't understand that. I showed several ways in which the greens differ from the other parties. That is not dodging the question, that is answering it. Now I remember why I stopped engaging with you a while ago. BTW. I gave up playing what's the missing word. Can you enlighten us? Whilst I understand typing, writing can be an issue for you and sympathise, my advice to you would be the same as I give to my students. Read it back two or three times before handing in. You have never 'engaged' with me. You have always posted self satisfied ramblings which you think should never be questioned by anyone. The fact I have questioned you, and you clearly hate being questioned as most teachers do as being able to pontificate in front of a group of people (usually younger and far less likely to question your ramblings) is how you get your mojo, is something that obviously gets under your skin. With regard to your attempt at an insult, I have had worse insults thrown at me today by people who second language is English. Given your professed hostility to personal insults, something you have accused me of many times on here as a distraction from the point of what is being debated, does this make you a massive hypocrite? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 29 Jan 15 9.45pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.39pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.32pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm

Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.

No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question.

You have never 'engaged' with me. You have always posted self satisfied ramblings which you think should never be questioned by anyone. The fact I have questioned you, and you clearly hate being questioned as most teachers do as being able to pontificate in front of a group of people (usually younger and far less likely to question your ramblings) is how you get your mojo, is something that obviously gets under your skin.

With regard to your attempt at an insult, I have had worse insults thrown at me today by people who second language is English. Given your professed hostility to personal insults, something you have accused me of many times on here as a distraction from the point of what is being debated, does this make you a massive hypocrite?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jan 15 9.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.45pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.39pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.32pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.12pm Quote nickgusset at 29 Jan 2015 9.07pm Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'! [Link] Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm) That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line. Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt. I will defend the greens education policies. There's much research that concludes starting formal schooling at 7 is better for kids. Greens believe education should not be left to the market and that schools should be under the remit of local authorities rather than corporate edubusiness. There's been much in the news about cronyism, backhanders and dodgy dealings in academies. Academies lack local democratic accountability. Like myself, greens are against the overtesting of children. This puts a lot of kids off of school. There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother. No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question. Sorry, can't understand that. I showed several ways in which the greens differ from the other parties. That is not dodging the question, that is answering it. Now I remember why I stopped engaging with you a while ago. BTW. I gave up playing what's the missing word. Can you enlighten us? Whilst I understand typing, writing can be an issue for you and sympathise, my advice to you would be the same as I give to my students. Read it back two or three times before handing in. You have never 'engaged' with me. You have always posted self satisfied ramblings which you think should never be questioned by anyone. The fact I have questioned you, and you clearly hate being questioned as most teachers do as being able to pontificate in front of a group of people (usually younger and far less likely to question your ramblings) is how you get your mojo, is something that obviously gets under your skin. With regard to your attempt at an insult, I have had worse insults thrown at me today by people who second language is English. Given your professed hostility to personal insults, something you have accused me of many times on here as a distraction from the point of what is being debated, does this make you a massive hypocrite? Bum gravy. If you were to engage, you'd explain why you think kids should be over tested, why there shouldn't be local democratic accountability in schools and why the academy experiment is working (even though a select committee has just declared it as a disaster) Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.51pm)
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Quote matt_himself at 29 Jan 2015 9.02pm

Even Labour, yes that's right Labour, are calling the Greens policies 'total madness'!

[Link]

Ahh, the great Tristram Hunt. He's one of the reasons why many many teachers won't vote Labour.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.11pm)

That's not a retort, Gusset, it is a throwaway line.

Are you going to defend the Greens educational policy? Failure to do so would imply your agreement, at least in part, with the 'great' Tristram Hunt.

There's lots more, but you won't read it Matt so I won't bother.

No, instead you will your typical superior self when questioned and again, dodge the question.

Bum gravy. If you were to engage, you'd explain why you think kids should be over tested, why there shouldn't be local democratic accountability in schools and why the academy experiment is working (even though a select committee has just declared it as a disaster)

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jan 2015 9.51pm)

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