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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 21 Jul 15 11.49am
would have thought romanian would be there as well They're justified, and they're ancient And they drive an ice cream van
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would have thought romanian would be there as well

They're justified, and they're ancient
And they drive an ice cream van

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 21 Jul 15 12.08pm
The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services. As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 21 Jul 15 12.08pm

The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services.

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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gambler Kent 21 Jul 15 12.15pm
It's only for one month isn't it?
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It's only for one month isn't it?

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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 21 Jul 15 12.27pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jul 2015 11.22am Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Jul 2015 10.45am I thought it was one of our aims to get everyone to speak English as a prerequisite of living here anyway? The idea being that they will integrate with society much better and not wish to live in a ghetto style commune with others they can communicate with in their own language and remain isolated. In which case the need for multilingual police officers will soon be redundant if that policy is enforced and people learn the mother tongue. On a practical level, the chances of one police officer speaking one extra language meeting up with a suspect that speaks that extra language will be pretty slim anyway. I can see that a police officer with additional language skills could be helpful but to exclude everyone without language skills is unfair and short sighted quite frankly. Even where people have learned English, I suspect many would prefer to be interviewed in their first language as their vocabulary and understanding of terms probably wouldn't be good. Also people tend to lie about how good their language is, and of course speak in a non-common language to obfuscate what they are saying. And its much more convenient than trying to get a translator on the weekend. Our language skills in this country are very poor. Most other countries the majority of the population speak two or three languages. When they are being interviewed They still have to have a translator present even if the officer speaks the same language to answer for the suspect and make sure they understand. PC - (in non English) Did you do it? Suspect - NO (in none English) PC He said - He is guilty sarg Don't think it would stand up in court. Edited by Apollofuzz (21 Jul 2015 12.29pm) I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.
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On the edge of reason 21 Jul 15 12.27pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jul 2015 11.22am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Jul 2015 10.45am

I thought it was one of our aims to get everyone to speak English as a prerequisite of living here anyway? The idea being that they will integrate with society much better and not wish to live in a ghetto style commune with others they can communicate with in their own language and remain isolated.

In which case the need for multilingual police officers will soon be redundant if that policy is enforced and people learn the mother tongue.

On a practical level, the chances of one police officer speaking one extra language meeting up with a suspect that speaks that extra language will be pretty slim anyway.

I can see that a police officer with additional language skills could be helpful but to exclude everyone without language skills is unfair and short sighted quite frankly.

Even where people have learned English, I suspect many would prefer to be interviewed in their first language as their vocabulary and understanding of terms probably wouldn't be good.

Also people tend to lie about how good their language is, and of course speak in a non-common language to obfuscate what they are saying.

And its much more convenient than trying to get a translator on the weekend.

Our language skills in this country are very poor. Most other countries the majority of the population speak two or three languages.

When they are being interviewed They still have to have a translator present even if the officer speaks the same language to answer for the suspect and make sure they understand.

PC - (in non English) Did you do it?
Suspect - NO (in none English)
PC He said - He is guilty sarg

Don't think it would stand up in court.

Edited by Apollofuzz (21 Jul 2015 12.29pm)

I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat
I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Jul 15 12.31pm
Nothing new. Officers based in Glasgow have had to be bi-lingual for decades now. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 21 Jul 15 12.31pm

Nothing new. Officers based in Glasgow have had to be bi-lingual for decades now.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Stirlingsays Online 21 Jul 15 12.41pm
Quote The Sash at 21 Jul 2015 12.08pm The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services. This country becomes more and more pathetic by the year. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Jul 15 12.41pm

Quote The Sash at 21 Jul 2015 12.08pm

The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services.

This country becomes more and more pathetic by the year.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Jul 15 12.45pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jul 2015 9.26am Quote Scucca at 21 Jul 2015 8.41am I speak 4 languages so guess I'd be in like a shot ... English, U.S. English, a smattering of Anglo Saxon and Rubbish. You speak pre-Norman English? I thought the same More like modern Dutch/German than modern English!
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 21 Jul 2015 9.26am

Quote Scucca at 21 Jul 2015 8.41am

I speak 4 languages so guess I'd be in like a shot ... English, U.S. English, a smattering of Anglo Saxon and Rubbish.

You speak pre-Norman English?

I thought the same More like modern Dutch/German than modern English!

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Jul 15 12.52pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2015 12.41pm Quote The Sash at 21 Jul 2015 12.08pm The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services. This country becomes more and more pathetic by the year. The PC crap, the junk food, obesity, the compo culture, gutter journalism, aggressive capitalism, etc, exported to the UK from the good ole US of A. We must have had one serious identity crisis for quite a while now. Why we had to look West rather than closer to home for consumer culture influence and what is considered 'right and wrong' is confounding. Suppose it was all shiny and nicely packaged and difficult to resist. Edited by Kermit8 (21 Jul 2015 12.53pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2015 12.41pm

Quote The Sash at 21 Jul 2015 12.08pm

The modern political take on The Police Force, sorry Service, is seemingly to turn it into a copy of Haringey Social Services.

This country becomes more and more pathetic by the year.

The PC crap, the junk food, obesity, the compo culture, gutter journalism, aggressive capitalism, etc, exported to the UK from the good ole US of A.

We must have had one serious identity crisis for quite a while now. Why we had to look West rather than closer to home for consumer culture influence and what is considered 'right and wrong' is confounding. Suppose it was all shiny and nicely packaged and difficult to resist.

Edited by Kermit8 (21 Jul 2015 12.53pm)

Big chest and massive boobs

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Stuk Top half 21 Jul 15 3.19pm
Quote Kermit8 at 21 Jul 2015 12.31pm Nothing new. Officers based in Glasgow have had to be bi-lingual for decades now. Drunk and sober? Optimistic as ever
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Top half 21 Jul 15 3.19pm

Quote Kermit8 at 21 Jul 2015 12.31pm

Nothing new. Officers based in Glasgow have had to be bi-lingual for decades now.

Drunk and sober?

Optimistic as ever

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ghosteagle 21 Jul 15 3.27pm
Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm It's only for one month isn't it? Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive..... .....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some.
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21 Jul 15 3.27pm

Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm

It's only for one month isn't it?

Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive.....

.....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some.

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Stirlingsays Online 21 Jul 15 4.01pm
Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jul 2015 3.27pm Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm It's only for one month isn't it? Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive..... .....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some. The 'one month' addition was added the next day in a very minor release after the 'Met' received criticism. Friendly and inclusive my arse....It's discrimination against one group to say they won't get a job if they apply. Wanting recruits with second languages is one thing....Going about it like this is plain stupid. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Jul 15 4.01pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jul 2015 3.27pm

Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm

It's only for one month isn't it?

Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive.....

.....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some.

The 'one month' addition was added the next day in a very minor release after the 'Met' received criticism.

Friendly and inclusive my arse....It's discrimination against one group to say they won't get a job if they apply.

Wanting recruits with second languages is one thing....Going about it like this is plain stupid.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ghosteagle 21 Jul 15 4.14pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2015 4.01pm Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jul 2015 3.27pm Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm It's only for one month isn't it? Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive..... .....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some. The 'one month' addition was added the next day in a very minor release after the 'Met' received criticism. Friendly and inclusive my arse....It's discrimination against one group to say they won't get a job if they apply. Wanting recruits with second languages is one thing....Going about it like this is plain stupid. Utter hogwash, now wipe your chin.
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21 Jul 15 4.14pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Jul 2015 4.01pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Jul 2015 3.27pm

Quote gambler at 21 Jul 2015 12.15pm

It's only for one month isn't it?

Yep, just a trial and an attempt to make the police appear more friendly and inclusive.....

.....and an excuse for some frothing at the mouth from some.

The 'one month' addition was added the next day in a very minor release after the 'Met' received criticism.

Friendly and inclusive my arse....It's discrimination against one group to say they won't get a job if they apply.

Wanting recruits with second languages is one thing....Going about it like this is plain stupid.

Utter hogwash, now wipe your chin.

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