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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 29 Jul 15 2.58pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Jul 2015 9.01am Or.... machine guns could be used. Add in some grenades, bazookas, tanks. That would suit me. What a great job that would be!
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Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Jul 2015 9.01am

Or.... machine guns could be used.

Add in some grenades, bazookas, tanks. That would suit me. What a great job that would be!

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 29 Jul 15 3.11pm
How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry. Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 29 Jul 15 3.11pm

How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry.

Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Jul 15 3.14pm
Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry. Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD. Well, you've had a lot of experience with pirates, so I'm told. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 29 Jul 15 3.14pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm

How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry.

Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD.

Well, you've had a lot of experience with pirates, so I'm told.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Catfish Burgess Hill 29 Jul 15 3.18pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 2.07pm Quote Catfish at 29 Jul 2015 2.00pm Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.40pm Quote Catfish at 29 Jul 2015 12.28pm Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.19pm Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 11.29am Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 11.18am Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 11.10am Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 11.01am Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class. Rhetoryical bollockical. Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever. Some on the left might, but it is unlikely that any of them will ever be Labour Home Secretary. I am interested in the idea that Labour are anti working class - do you have more information? Ask the millions of ordinary UK working class voters who deserted them, or ask the immigrant communities who did vote for them, or the middle-class left who make up their core support and couldn't care less about the indigenous working class. That would be a trifle impractical - I was asking your opinion. Try taking your foot of the aggressionometer a little. Edited by Catfish (29 Jul 2015 3.19pm) Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy.

Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite.

Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class.

Rhetoryical bollockical.

Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems.

Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities.

The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever.

Some on the left might, but it is unlikely that any of them will ever be Labour Home Secretary. I am interested in the idea that Labour are anti working class - do you have more information?

Ask the millions of ordinary UK working class voters who deserted them, or ask the immigrant communities who did vote for them, or the middle-class left who make up their core support and couldn't care less about the indigenous working class.

That would be a trifle impractical - I was asking your opinion. Try taking your foot of the aggressionometer a little.

Edited by Catfish (29 Jul 2015 3.19pm)

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Stuk Top half 29 Jul 15 3.19pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Jul 2015 3.14pm Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry. Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD. Well, you've had a lot of experience with pirates, so I'm told. I thought he'd had more with sailors. Optimistic as ever
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Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Jul 2015 3.14pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm

How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry.

Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD.

Well, you've had a lot of experience with pirates, so I'm told.

I thought he'd had more with sailors.

Optimistic as ever

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Stuk Top half 29 Jul 15 3.20pm
Quote fed up eagle at 29 Jul 2015 2.54pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 6.16pm Quote corkery at 28 Jul 2015 5.54pm Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 2.03pm Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy. Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules). Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries. I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget? Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it. If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants. Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm) By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then? They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK. The solution should be just to turn the boats back. The better solution would be to abolish the schengen agreement. Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm) How about sink the boats and leave em' to it? It's a bit murderous. Optimistic as ever
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Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.

I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)

By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

The solution should be just to turn the boats back.

The better solution would be to abolish the schengen agreement.

Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm)

How about sink the boats and leave em' to it?

It's a bit murderous.

Optimistic as ever

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so many memories basingstoke 29 Jul 15 4.22pm
Quote elgrande at 29 Jul 2015 1.48pm How many countries etc have been through to get to France. The answer probably. Where you going. U.K. oh carry on then Not as if you come here for the weather is it. Needs to be sorted. French don't give a f*, why should we. Stuck on the M20 again. As someone posted earlier on this thread. If they are genuine fleeing from terror and fear for their lives, then they should claim asylum in the first "safe" country they come to. The French should fingerprint every single one of them. But they won't because if they are then caught in this country we can send them back to France. They are not stupid. Get it on-get it in-FK OFF ALAN HANSEN!!
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Quote elgrande at 29 Jul 2015 1.48pm
How many countries etc have been through to get to France. The answer probably. Where you going. U.K. oh carry on then
Not as if you come here for the weather is it. Needs to be sorted. French don't give a f***, why should we. Stuck on the M20 again.
As someone posted earlier on this thread.
If they are genuine fleeing from terror and fear for their lives, then they should claim asylum in the first "safe" country they come to.

The French should fingerprint every single one of them.
But they won't because if they are then caught in this country we can send them back to France.

They are not stupid.

Get it on-get it in-F**K OFF ALAN HANSEN!!

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so many memories basingstoke 29 Jul 15 4.26pm
Quote Stuk at 29 Jul 2015 2.36pm Quote beagle at 29 Jul 2015 2.12pm Watching some of the extraordinary footage of people opening up the backs of lorries while on the move, isn't the answer...a padlock? They just cut them off. What they need is padlocks with a few thousand volts running though them! Brought my own personal tazer. Majority of the f*ers there are not asylum seekers just nasty fers wanting to get in u.k. Had first hand experience. Needs sorting before a man-womsn doing their job get fed over. Get it on-get it in-FK OFF ALAN HANSEN!!
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basingstoke 29 Jul 15 4.26pm

Quote Stuk at 29 Jul 2015 2.36pm

Quote beagle at 29 Jul 2015 2.12pm

Watching some of the extraordinary footage of people opening up the backs of lorries while on the move, isn't the answer...a padlock?

They just cut them off.

What they need is padlocks with a few thousand volts running though them!

Brought my own personal tazer. Majority of the f***ers there are not asylum seekers just nasty f***ers wanting to get in u.k. Had first hand experience. Needs sorting before a man-womsn doing their job get f***ed over.

Get it on-get it in-F**K OFF ALAN HANSEN!!

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 29 Jul 15 4.35pm
Quote Catfish at 29 Jul 2015 2.00pm Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.40pm Quote Catfish at 29 Jul 2015 12.28pm Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 12.19pm Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 11.29am Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 11.18am Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 11.10am Quote leggedstruggle at 29 Jul 2015 11.01am Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy. Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite. Hansel and Gretel's inability to offer their immigration policy illustrates well my original point: the Left would have no controls whatsoever on immigration and are more than happy to see the consequences visited on the existing UK working class. Rhetoryical bollockical. Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems. Evidence that Labour governments have been soft on immigration is not convincing. It was Labour who brought in the 1968 Commonwealth Immigrants Act and, more recently was responsible for introducing civil penalties for those employing illegal migrants, extended the powers of immigration officers to arrest and created harder laws on facilitation of illegal migrants. The reality is that both Labour and the Tories have acted pretty consistently on the issue when actually in office and confronted with the practicalities. The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever. Some on the left might, but it is unlikely that any of them will ever be Labour Home Secretary. I am interested in the idea that Labour are anti working class - do you have more information? Labour abandoned the white working class especially in the South long ago, they prefer a sneer at their white van or St George flag in the front garden - essentially now a party of middle class right leaning centrists that sneer at was once their core support and at election time got bitten in the arse. [Link] Its the reason we still have a Tory government - the votes that Milliband should have picked up without even trying went UKIP's way or heaven forbid went straight back to Cameron. Edited by The Sash (29 Jul 2015 4.36pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Still waiting for Torvill & Dean's immigration policy.

Still waiting for you to post something not laughably trite.

Rhetoryical bollockical.

Barbie and Ken have opinions and 'policies' on absolutely everything - apart from immigration it seems.

The Left as represented by Napoleon and Snowball would repeal all the measures you mention and have absolutely no controls over immigration whatsoever.

Some on the left might, but it is unlikely that any of them will ever be Labour Home Secretary. I am interested in the idea that Labour are anti working class - do you have more information?

Labour abandoned the white working class especially in the South long ago, they prefer a sneer at their white van or St George flag in the front garden - essentially now a party of middle class right leaning centrists that sneer at was once their core support and at election time got bitten in the arse.

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Its the reason we still have a Tory government - the votes that Milliband should have picked up without even trying went UKIP's way or heaven forbid went straight back to Cameron.

Edited by The Sash (29 Jul 2015 4.36pm)

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Kermit8 Hevon 29 Jul 15 4.40pm
The white van man and flag bearing SE working class started voting for the Tories under Maggie. It has been compounded since but they had shifted pretty much totally anyway by 1987. Not sure who they voted for in 1997 onwards. Probably The Tories again and UKiP recently. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 29 Jul 15 4.40pm

The white van man and flag bearing SE working class started voting for the Tories under Maggie. It has been compounded since but they had shifted pretty much totally anyway by 1987. Not sure who they voted for in 1997 onwards. Probably The Tories again and UKiP recently.

Big chest and massive boobs

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DanH SW2 29 Jul 15 4.48pm
Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry. Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD. Oh come on danny, stop making it so easy.
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Quote dannyh at 29 Jul 2015 3.11pm

How long before haulage companies employ people to sit in the back of the truck tooled up to the 9's to "persuade" immigrants to find another lorry.

Has happened in shipping, Maritime security is big well paid business and something I am considering when I get out of the employ of the MOD.

Oh come on danny, stop making it so easy.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 29 Jul 15 5.09pm
Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 4.40pm The white van man and flag bearing SE working class started voting for the Tories under Maggie. It has been compounded since but they had shifted pretty much totally anyway by 1987. Not sure who they voted for in 1997 onwards. Probably The Tories again and UKiP recently. Well in 1997 up to 2010 they voted Labour, who, like in the 1970's wrecked the country and then the Tories came in and cleaned up the mess. Wether these Tories manage to clear this mess up remains to be seen because this is a catastrophe of biblical proportions. With the immigrants in Calais being the plague of locusts.
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Quote Kermit8 at 29 Jul 2015 4.40pm

Well in 1997 up to 2010 they voted Labour, who, like in the 1970's wrecked the country and then the Tories came in and cleaned up the mess. Wether these Tories manage to clear this mess up remains to be seen because this is a catastrophe of biblical proportions. With the immigrants in Calais being the plague of locusts.

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