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DanH SW2 02 Oct 15 10.03am
Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.52am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 9.49am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.46am Did I say that? Defence of the country, its people and its law should of course be the responsibility of government because that cannot realistically be expected to be provided by citizens. The NHS I think should stay free at the point of service but I have no problem with privatising parts of the background to make it more efficient. I have family that work in the NHS and they endorse that, as long as it is free to use who the bloody hell cares? My point was that because the railways are providing a poor service now, does not mean that you can wave a magic wand, nationalise it and assume that it will provide a better and cheaper service. The same goes for utilities, I don't want my power being at the hands of the unions, I don't particularly like rolling blackouts since my business that I run from home relies on it. Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics and policies and it won't wash with the British electorate. Who has said it's fantasist economics? Erm, quite a few people... Do you need a list? You have Google. There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even.
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SW2 02 Oct 15 10.03am

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Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.46am

Did I say that? Defence of the country, its people and its law should of course be the responsibility of government because that cannot realistically be expected to be provided by citizens. The NHS I think should stay free at the point of service but I have no problem with privatising parts of the background to make it more efficient. I have family that work in the NHS and they endorse that, as long as it is free to use who the bloody hell cares?

My point was that because the railways are providing a poor service now, does not mean that you can wave a magic wand, nationalise it and assume that it will provide a better and cheaper service. The same goes for utilities, I don't want my power being at the hands of the unions, I don't particularly like rolling blackouts since my business that I run from home relies on it.

Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics and policies and it won't wash with the British electorate.

Who has said it's fantasist economics?

Erm, quite a few people... Do you need a list? You have Google.

There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.09am
Quote DanH at 02 Oct 2015 10.03am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.52am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 9.49am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.46am Did I say that? Defence of the country, its people and its law should of course be the responsibility of government because that cannot realistically be expected to be provided by citizens. The NHS I think should stay free at the point of service but I have no problem with privatising parts of the background to make it more efficient. I have family that work in the NHS and they endorse that, as long as it is free to use who the bloody hell cares? My point was that because the railways are providing a poor service now, does not mean that you can wave a magic wand, nationalise it and assume that it will provide a better and cheaper service. The same goes for utilities, I don't want my power being at the hands of the unions, I don't particularly like rolling blackouts since my business that I run from home relies on it. Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics and policies and it won't wash with the British electorate. Who has said it's fantasist economics? Erm, quite a few people... Do you need a list? You have Google. There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even. Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?
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Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.09am

Quote DanH at 02 Oct 2015 10.03am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.52am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 9.49am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 9.46am

Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics and policies and it won't wash with the British electorate.

Who has said it's fantasist economics?

Erm, quite a few people... Do you need a list? You have Google.

There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even.

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 10.20am
Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 10.20am

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Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 10.23am
Quote DanH at 02 Oct 2015 10.03am There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even. As this is an internet forum, I don't think it's too outrageous for me to state "Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics" as my opinion. Asking "who said so?" is a pretty bizarre response, even by Nick's standards. And it ignores the rest of my post, which is much more in line with what Nick normally does. Edited by We are goin up! (02 Oct 2015 10.23am) The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 10.23am

Quote DanH at 02 Oct 2015 10.03am

There's plenty of anti-austerity economists on google too mate. Nobel prize winning ones even.

As this is an internet forum, I don't think it's too outrageous for me to state "Corbyn is promoting fantasist economics" as my opinion. Asking "who said so?" is a pretty bizarre response, even by Nick's standards. And it ignores the rest of my post, which is much more in line with what Nick normally does.

Edited by We are goin up! (02 Oct 2015 10.23am)

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.25am
Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.
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Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

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Hoof Hearted 02 Oct 15 10.34am
Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks. People aren't "relying" on food banks. "People" are spending their dole money on luxury items like fags, booze and iPhones knowing they can turn up at St Barnabas Church and plead poverty, so some mug vicar and his minions can give them a cardboard box full of semi-fresh food.
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Hoof Hearted 02 Oct 15 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

People aren't "relying" on food banks.

"People" are spending their dole money on luxury items like fags, booze and iPhones knowing they can turn up at St Barnabas Church and plead poverty, so some mug vicar and his minions can give them a cardboard box full of semi-fresh food.

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Oct 15 10.35am
Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks. Not to mention those poor third world b@stards working 70hour weeks in sh1te conditions away from their families in order to earn a few dollars a day, to provide us with even more cheap goods in our spoilt, selfish, greedy country, and to provide their family with a bit of food and basic shelter. They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 02 Oct 15 10.35am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

Not to mention those poor third world b@stards working 70hour weeks in sh1te conditions away from their families in order to earn a few dollars a day, to provide us with even more cheap goods in our spoilt, selfish, greedy country, and to provide their family with a bit of food and basic shelter.

They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Oct 15 10.36am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Oct 2015 10.34am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks. People aren't "relying" on food banks. "People" are spending their dole money on luxury items like fags, booze and iPhones knowing they can turn up at St Barnabas Church and plead poverty, so some mug vicar and his minions can give them a cardboard box full of semi-fresh food. You cannot be serious. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Kermit8

Hevon 02 Oct 15 10.36am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Oct 2015 10.34am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

People aren't "relying" on food banks.

You cannot be serious.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

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Hoof Hearted 02 Oct 15 10.37am
Quote Kermit8 at 02 Oct 2015 10.35am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks. Not to mention those poor third world b@stards working 70hour weeks in sh1te conditions away from their families in order to earn a few dollars a day, to provide us with even more cheap goods in our spoilt, selfish, greedy country, and to provide their family with a bit of food and basic shelter. They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way. See my reply above Kermit!
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Hoof Hearted 02 Oct 15 10.37am

Quote Kermit8 at 02 Oct 2015 10.35am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way.

See my reply above Kermit!

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.58am
Have a read of this academic synopsis of a food poverty policy event Hoof. [Link] It's more than 100 words so I don't expect you will. For this reason here are the main findings. Reflecting on the state of the field, key findings drawn from the papers and discussions were that: Food insecurity is widespread, with concentrations in deprived areas; Food bank provision is increasing because of rising need; Food bank recipients are in desperate situations; There are different and distinct lived experiences throughout the life course; Choice-based discourses that shift blame from the state to individuals are inadequate for addressing the real barriers to food access that people face.
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Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 15 10.58am

Have a read of this academic synopsis of a food poverty policy event Hoof.

[Link]

It's more than 100 words so I don't expect you will. For this reason here are the main findings.

Reflecting on the state of the field, key findings drawn from the papers and discussions were that:

Food insecurity is widespread, with concentrations in deprived areas;

Food bank provision is increasing because of rising need;

Food bank recipients are in desperate situations;

There are different and distinct lived experiences throughout the life course;

Choice-based discourses that shift blame from the state to individuals are inadequate for addressing the real barriers to food access that people face.

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stan still 02 Oct 15 11.01am
Hoof, I can't believe you really think that everyone using a foodbank is a scrounging doler who's blown their dole money on fags, booze and luxury goods. Surely not?! Also, where's the logic in your answer to Kermit8's comment about sweatshop workers? Edited by stan still (02 Oct 2015 11.02am)
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02 Oct 15 11.01am

Hoof, I can't believe you really think that everyone using a foodbank is a scrounging doler who's blown their dole money on fags, booze and luxury goods. Surely not?!

Also, where's the logic in your answer to Kermit8's comment about sweatshop workers?

Edited by stan still (02 Oct 2015 11.02am)

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 11.06am
Quote Kermit8 at 02 Oct 2015 10.35am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up? Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo? Hilarious, classic left-winger blaming the media. Could it possibly be that people have seen that capitalism has increased wealth at all levels and have therefore voted for it consistently in this country? You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute. Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks. Not to mention those poor third world b@stards working 70hour weeks in sh1te conditions away from their families in order to earn a few dollars a day, to provide us with even more cheap goods in our spoilt, selfish, greedy country, and to provide their family with a bit of food and basic shelter. They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way. In 20 years, this capitalist world has reduced the number in absolute poverty by almost a billion, despite growing world population. [Link] The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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We are goin up!

Coulsdon 02 Oct 15 11.06am

Quote Kermit8 at 02 Oct 2015 10.35am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.25am

Quote We are goin up! at 02 Oct 2015 10.20am

Quote nickgusset at 02 Oct 2015 10.09am

Did you read about them in the mainstream media we are going up?
Why do you think the 5 owners of 80% of the british media (who incidently don't even live here) want to keep the non-dom status quo?

You'll probably call the Tories "anti-democratic" in a minute.

Increased wealth at all levels? Tell that to the people relying on food banks.

They must really admire and respect this capitalistic way.

In 20 years, this capitalist world has reduced the number in absolute poverty by almost a billion, despite growing world population.

[Link]

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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