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legaleagle Flag 07 Sep 15 9.55pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 7.47pm

The name of the game Nick is to gain as much rent as possible so yes in a way this is true. Ultimately though the market (like any other market) is driven by supply and demand with the main determining factor being the 300k+ foreigners arriving year on year which naturally pushes the prices higher and higher each year. You may not like this answer but as a landlord I can categorically tell you that that is the truth Nick – more and more people arriving and not enough stock to go round means rents will just keep going up for the foreseeable future. The country’s immigration policy – not landlords are pushing up the rents.


What percentage of families that are your residential tenants would you say are immigrants who have arrived here in the past five years,Tom?

 

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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 7.36pm

To be fair Nick - I don’t think any landlord would wish to keep a residential property empty. Would not make any sense. Probably more applicable to holiday homes/second homes etc

That's why there should be a hefty 'empty house' charge. A bit like the 'bedroom tax' that so many on here support.

(Cue the "it's not a tax" responses)

Nick, I would be obliged if you could answer my questions about how Corbyn has costed his rent plans.

Before you appear to ignore them and pick a fight over the Bedroom Tax that you have instigated.


Not worth a yellow.


Can you or not provide a costing for Corbyn's rent plans?

It's a simple question.

I can, but you can look for it yourself, it's widely available if you search Corbyn Housing Policy.

As requested by the mods, I will no longer further engage with you.


I have looked nick,as I said before it is an absolute none starter you simply cannot build 240.000 houses in a year.
And as for the rent controls,Ihave some sympathy for this....but how is it gonna work the govenment telling private landlords what they can charge for rent...thats gonna work.

 


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Wont be long before we see a return of PreFabs.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 10.06pm

Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 9.55pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 7.47pm

The name of the game Nick is to gain as much rent as possible so yes in a way this is true. Ultimately though the market (like any other market) is driven by supply and demand with the main determining factor being the 300k+ foreigners arriving year on year which naturally pushes the prices higher and higher each year. You may not like this answer but as a landlord I can categorically tell you that that is the truth Nick – more and more people arriving and not enough stock to go round means rents will just keep going up for the foreseeable future. The country’s immigration policy – not landlords are pushing up the rents.


What percentage of families that are your residential tenants would you say are immigrants who have arrived here in the past five years,Tom?

Very few are family's Legal (normally couples or sharers) but I would say that over half are now from Eastern Europe. I actually actively try and find Eastern Europeans as they appear to make great tenants. I think I know where this is going lol

 


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Quote stateside at 07 Sep 2015 10.02pm

Wont be long before we see a return of PreFabs.


My nan lived in one, very nice place

 

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Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 9.55pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 7.47pm

The name of the game Nick is to gain as much rent as possible so yes in a way this is true. Ultimately though the market (like any other market) is driven by supply and demand with the main determining factor being the 300k+ foreigners arriving year on year which naturally pushes the prices higher and higher each year. You may not like this answer but as a landlord I can categorically tell you that that is the truth Nick – more and more people arriving and not enough stock to go round means rents will just keep going up for the foreseeable future. The country’s immigration policy – not landlords are pushing up the rents.


What percentage of families that are your residential tenants would you say are immigrants who have arrived here in the past five years,Tom?


And who actually do you class as an immigrant? There must be loads of people that have simply moved here - guy in my road was moved to the UK by his company, doesn't know how long for but at least 5 years.

There's an Irish family moved here over 20 years ago, now retired

Are they immigrants?

 

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legaleagle Flag 07 Sep 15 10.27pm

Quote elgrande at 07 Sep 2015 10.00pm

I have looked nick,as I said before it is an absolute none starter you simply cannot build 240.000 houses in a year.
And as for the rent controls,Ihave some sympathy for this....but how is it gonna work the govenment telling private landlords what they can charge for rent...thats gonna work.


The Attlee government built more than a million homes.

The Conservative government elected in 1951 pledged (and succeeded) to build 300,000 homes a year.

It all depends on priorities and political will at the highest levels and what voters clamour for.

There are 418 upper and second tier councils in the UK. England has 353 unitary, upper and second tier councils. There are 32 unitaries in Scotland, 22 unitaries and Wales and 11 unitaries in Northern Ireland.So,an average of 287 homes per authority.

How rent controls would work would be by undoing the Thatcher government's 1980's near abolition of rent controls and reintroducing what served us ok for more than 60 years under governments of various hues...

Edited by legaleagle (07 Sep 2015 10.38pm)

 

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legaleagle Flag 07 Sep 15 10.58pm

Quote rednblue4eva at 07 Sep 2015 10.23pm

And who actually do you class as an immigrant? There must be loads of people that have simply moved here - guy in my road was moved to the UK by his company, doesn't know how long for but at least 5 years.

There's an Irish family moved here over 20 years ago, now retired

Are they immigrants?


Very fair question.

As another example, my grandmother lived here for more than 65 years after immigrating here from Romania...was she an "immigrant" all her life or did she become a "Brit" after taking nationality or alternatively after a certain number of years here?Or in the eyes of some,could she and her ilk never be "Brits"?

 

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Damn! Britain's new tennis hope is an immigrant. [Link]

 


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Quote rednblue4eva at 07 Sep 2015 10.23pm

And who actually do you class as an immigrant? There must be loads of people that have simply moved here - guy in my road was moved to the UK by his company, doesn't know how long for but at least 5 years.

There's an Irish family moved here over 20 years ago, now retired

Are they immigrants?


Do you consider them British?

A foreigner can become British, it just needs time.

An immigrant in my eyes is someone from abroad who's first allegiance isn't to the UK.....England, Scotland...Wherever they laid their hat.

 


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Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 10.27pm

Quote elgrande at 07 Sep 2015 10.00pm

I have looked nick,as I said before it is an absolute none starter you simply cannot build 240.000 houses in a year.
And as for the rent controls,Ihave some sympathy for this....but how is it gonna work the govenment telling private landlords what they can charge for rent...thats gonna work.


The Attlee government built more than a million homes.

The Conservative government elected in 1951 pledged (and succeeded) to build 300,000 homes a year.

It all depends on priorities and political will at the highest levels and what voters clamour for.

There are 418 upper and second tier councils in the UK. England has 353 unitary, upper and second tier councils. There are 32 unitaries in Scotland, 22 unitaries and Wales and 11 unitaries in Northern Ireland.So,an average of 287 homes per authority.

How rent controls would work would be by undoing the Thatcher government's 1980's near abolition of rent controls and reintroducing what served us ok for more than 60 years under governments of various hues...

Edited by legaleagle (07 Sep 2015 10.38pm)


You omit to mention or just don't know that those homes were built on money from the Marshall plan.

American aid money.

 


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