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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 16 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Am I allowed to say this is ridiculous?

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Of course you are.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jun 2016 8.47pm)

 


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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 04 Jun 16 9.51pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


To save time and stop you going round in circles Matthew


If you want to brush this under the carpet and not address it, that is your right.

However, I don't believe that some of the comments made by Labour people sit well with you and believe that if similar comments were made about Muslims by UKIP people, you would be up in arms.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 11.11pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

If you want to brush this under the carpet and not address it, that is your right.

However, I don't believe that some of the comments made by Labour people sit well with you and believe that if similar comments were made about Muslims by UKIP people, you would be up in arms.


If you don't think Labour are not dealing with anti semitism I'd like evidence.

I think that they've done the right thing suspending those accused pending investigation.

Personally I don't think you give a toss. I think you're recycling the same old s*** that we've already covered just to have a pop on here. Quite frankly Matthew it's getting very dreary, not only for me but also other HOL users.

So unless you can produce concrete evidence to back up your claims that the Labour party(who, correct me if I'm wrong recently had a Jewish leader) is anti semitic I'd like to see it please. If not pipe down.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 05 Jun 16 7.14am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


If you don't think Labour are not dealing with anti semitism I'd like evidence.

I think that they've done the right thing suspending those accused pending investigation.

Personally I don't think you give a toss. I think you're recycling the same old s*** that we've already covered just to have a pop on here. Quite frankly Matthew it's getting very dreary, not only for me but also other HOL users.

So unless you can produce concrete evidence to back up your claims that the Labour party(who, correct me if I'm wrong recently had a Jewish leader) is anti semitic I'd like to see it please. If not pipe down.

Classic Gusset. You don't like being questioned so you attempt to take the moral high ground by asking for imaginary evidence to be produced and then take it upon your self to speak for umidentified HOL users (something you appeared to accuse me of yesterday) in order to avoid questioning on something you clearly are uncomfortable with.

Dreary? Dreary is ten years of 'Tory Cund' posts backed up by unsubstantiated blogs.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Originally posted by matt_himself

Classic Gusset. You don't like being questioned so you attempt to take the moral high ground by asking for imaginary evidence to be produced and then take it upon your self to speak for umidentified HOL users (something you appeared to accuse me of yesterday) in order to avoid questioning on something you clearly are uncomfortable with..

At the risk on speaking on the other user's behalf, I think he was asking for real evidence, not imaginary.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 16 10.33am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Classic Gusset. You don't like being questioned so you attempt to take the moral high ground by asking for imaginary evidence to be produced and then take it upon your self to speak for umidentified HOL users (something you appeared to accuse me of yesterday) in order to avoid questioning on something you clearly are uncomfortable with.

Dreary? Dreary is ten years of 'Tory Cund' posts backed up by unsubstantiated blogs.

I don't think you need 'unsubstantiated blogs' to see that the Tories are c***s.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 16 1.41pm

Investigation Hearing into Suspension of Tony Greenstein from Labour Party 30th May 2016.
Apologies, it is a long read. I politely ask that people read the whole thing before commenting. Contains many salient points. Particularly considering what I feel is a witch hunt that took place. It's not opinion but primary evidence, including use of the word 'Zio'

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Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2016 1.43pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Jun 16 10.14pm

there is some hope after all...

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jun 16 7.56am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Investigation Hearing into Suspension of Tony Greenstein from Labour Party 30th May 2016.
Apologies, it is a long read. I politely ask that people read the whole thing before commenting. Contains many salient points. Particularly considering what I feel is a witch hunt that took place. It's not opinion but primary evidence, including use of the word 'Zio'

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Edited by nickgusset (05 Jun 2016 1.43pm)

Perplexing that those shouting loudest about Labours so called problem with anti semitism haven't responded to this transcript that shows they are and that it's a facile witch hunt.

 

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legaleagle Flag 08 Jun 16 9.12am

Hmmm...a "facile witch hunt?"...

The only thing facile would be a facile analysis employed by a person trotting out a line that it was a "facile witch hunt"" to even look into a person who had trotted out a hoary canard about Jews' particular responsibility for the slave trade.

See below for another example of a facile analysis,...Jewish columnist writes perfectly reasonable column pointing out one J Corbyn seemingly having no problem or regrets over sharing a platform with a believer in the hoary old canard of the blood libel....J Corbyn sees the columnist as the problem....ho hum.

"In a reserved March 18 column cited by Corbyn, Freedland wrote:

Which brings us to Jeremy Corbyn. No one accuses him of being an antisemite. But many Jews do worry that his past instinct, when faced with potential allies whom he deemed sound on Palestine, was to overlook whatever nastiness they might have uttered about Jews, even when that extended to Holocaust denial or the blood libel – the medieval calumny that Jews baked bread using the blood of gentile children. (To be specific: Corbyn was a long-time backer of a pro-Palestinian group founded by Paul Eisen, attending its 2013 event even after Eisen had outed himself as a Holocaust denier years earlier. Similarly, Corbyn praised Islamist leader Sheikh Raed Salah even though, as a British court confirmed, Salah had deployed the blood libel.

Thanks to Corbyn, the Labour party is expanding, attracting many leftists who would previously have rejected it or been rejected by it. Among those are people with hostile views of Jews. Two of them have been kicked out, but only after they had first been readmitted and once their cases attracted unwelcome external scrutiny.

The question for Labour now is whether any of this matters. To those at the top, maybe it doesn’t. But it feels like a painful loss to a small community that once looked to Labour as its natural home—and which is fast reaching the glum conclusion that Labour has become a cold house for Jews.

This mildly critical column which did not actually accuse Corbyn of anti-Semitism was apparently too much for the Labour leader. In a phone conversation captured in Vice News‘s newly-released documentary on Corbyn, the party head is heard complaining about Freedland to his director of strategy Seamus Milne in terms that bring to mind Donald Trump’s personal attacks on journalists:

The big negative today is Jonathan Freedland in the Guardian… Labour has a problem with anti-Semitism under Corbyn. Utterly disgusting subliminal nastiness, you know. He’s not a good guy at all. He seems kind of obsessed with me, you know?


It turns out that while Corbyn has been unable to muster such pointed condemnation of the racists within his party, he suffers from no such handicap when it comes to attacking the journalists who expose them."

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Jun 16 9.29am

It only a witch hunt if there is no such thing as 'witches' - I automatically assume that anyone using the phrase 'witch hunt' is actually guilty.

After all the point of witch hunts, is they tortured, burned and hung tens of thousands of women for something that didn't exist - Witches and magic, based on their own ignorant beliefs.

 


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