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Stuk Top half 19 Jul 16 8.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
This isn't about religion - this is about how people CHOOSE to b******ise religion and then have gullible followers jump onto the band wagon, primarily through social media that cannot be adequately policed. I don't think you've read the conversation jamie and I have been having if you don't think it's about religion. That, and the law, have been the crux of it. If you can't acknowledge that a certain religion has been a common theme amongst multiple incidents of late, you're blind. They've been different nationalities, different ages, born there or immigrated to there, acted as a group or as an individual. The theme isn't Facebook or Twitter ffs.
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Ouzo Dan 19 Jul 16 8.16pm | |
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The Burka is an affront to Women's rights & has no place in a relatively free & democratic society. It is worn in the desert, made of cheap nylon & it is almost always black & designed to cover as much as possible. Why on earth anyone who wants to stand up for womens rights would choose to turn a blind eye to this is taking society backwards & reeks of hypocrisy. Islam by & large is deeply homophobic. Halal slaughter is f***ing evil. Seperation of religion & state These are lines in the sand among many many reasons & there should be absolutely no movement from us. Instead we allow the suffering of women and even celebrate it. Turn a blind eye to the absolutely disgusting levels of homophobia that exist within the British muslim community. Halal slaughter is tolerated, f*** we even give tax breaks to religious slaughter houses giving them the advantage over traditional abbattoirs (this being the real reason why it is impossible to get non halal meat anymore) Then theres the Cultural things like, acid attacks, honour killings, illegal sharia courts set up to settle disputes within Muslim communities all are two fingers up to a British legal system that has stood the test of time for centuries. This country gives and gives and gives in the hope that the next Generation of Muslims will somehow get on board and be more tolerant yet the evidence shows that it is indeed the opposite that is happening.
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Ouzo Dan 19 Jul 16 8.29pm | |
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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall
apologies if posted elsewhere. Went looking for the news as not many are covering it. What makes a man holidaying with his own family decide to throw away his own life, destroy the lives of his own children and try to kill a mother & her three children? In this case Islam... Of course people will say that she should have dressed herself and her children more appropriately.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 19 Jul 16 9.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
The Burka is an affront to Women's rights & has no place in a relatively free & democratic society. It is worn in the desert, made of cheap nylon & it is almost always black & designed to cover as much as possible. Why on earth anyone who wants to stand up for womens rights would choose to turn a blind eye to this is taking society backwards & reeks of hypocrisy. Islam by & large is deeply homophobic. Halal slaughter is f***ing evil. Seperation of religion & state These are lines in the sand among many many reasons & there should be absolutely no movement from us. Instead we allow the suffering of women and even celebrate it. Turn a blind eye to the absolutely disgusting levels of homophobia that exist within the British muslim community. Halal slaughter is tolerated, f*** we even give tax breaks to religious slaughter houses giving them the advantage over traditional abbattoirs (this being the real reason why it is impossible to get non halal meat anymore) Then theres the Cultural things like, acid attacks, honour killings, illegal sharia courts set up to settle disputes within Muslim communities all are two fingers up to a British legal system that has stood the test of time for centuries. This country gives and gives and gives in the hope that the next Generation of Muslims will somehow get on board and be more tolerant yet the evidence shows that it is indeed the opposite that is happening.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jul 16 9.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Halal slaughter is tolerated, f*** we even give tax breaks to religious slaughter houses giving them the advantage over traditional abbattoirs (this being the real reason why it is impossible to get non halal meat anymore) I'm not having any problems buying non Halal meat. Maybe if you live in West Ham, parts of Oldham and Rotherham or you only eat out of the cheapest fried chicken shops you have difficulty.
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Ouzo Dan 19 Jul 16 10.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I'm not having any problems buying non Halal meat. Maybe if you live in West Ham, parts of Oldham and Rotherham or you only eat out of the cheapest fried chicken shops you have difficulty. Every meat product in a supermarket apart from pork & fish is slaughtered in the halal way, supermarkets even have the cheek to have halal sections when the 'non halal' meat is actually the same just with a different label, it's also why a couple of years back the house of commons voted out the idea of correctly labelling where your meat was slaughtered.
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sniffer dagenham The narm, Dagennarm 19 Jul 16 11.37pm | |
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I dare say to many non of these actually happened. Now with some bloke from Afghan attacking four people on a train in Germany and three people from one family knifed for wearing just tee-shirts and shorts because it didn't agree with his religion. Someone tell me why we should bow down to their way of life. If I went to a muslim country and asked to open a church for Christians do you think I;d be able to get away with. No of course I wouldn't. So why do we allow this to happen here? Thats right because most of the local councils are run by NON British people. And please, no one give me the human rights sh1t please. FFS Attachment: all dead.jpg (122.26Kb)
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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Jul 16 8.18am | |
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Originally posted by sniffer dagenham
I dare say to many non of these actually happened. Now with some bloke from Afghan attacking four people on a train in Germany and three people from one family knifed for wearing just tee-shirts and shorts because it didn't agree with his religion. Someone tell me why we should bow down to their way of life. If I went to a muslim country and asked to open a church for Christians do you think I;d be able to get away with. No of course I wouldn't. So why do we allow this to happen here? Thats right because most of the local councils are run by NON British people. And please, no one give me the human rights sh1t please. FFS It's a shocking and, sadly, true headline and only around 50-60 perpetrators in total committed those acts. Mass murder by the few out of the 1.1billion Muslims.
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 20 Jul 16 9.11am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's a shocking and, sadly, true headline and only around 50-60 perpetrators in total committed those acts. Mass murder by the few out of the 1.1billion Muslims. Not all Germans were Nazis either.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Jul 16 9.21am | |
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IS and their like are to Islam what the Klan is to Christianity. Borrowed from the West Wing 9/11 episode.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Jul 16 9.24am | |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Not all Germans were Nazis either. No, but then most Muslims aren't fighting in a war. Whilst not all Germans were Nazis, plenty of Germans fought in the war, for their government, who were Nazis and carried out their orders. I don't think the analogy holds, given the number of Muslims that are engaged in the war against IS in Syria and Islamic extremists (who generally are fighting against other Muslims).
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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Jul 16 9.27am | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I don't think you've read the conversation jamie and I have been having if you don't think it's about religion. That, and the law, have been the crux of it. If you can't acknowledge that a certain religion has been a common theme amongst multiple incidents of late, you're blind. They've been different nationalities, different ages, born there or immigrated to there, acted as a group or as an individual. The theme isn't Facebook or Twitter ffs. I don't think you can rule Islam out of the equation - Radical Islamic Sunni and Sufist movements in particular. Its a complex picture. However Islam is a very broad category.
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