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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Jul 16 12.57pm | |
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There will have been more stabbings, axe attacks and racist attacks and murders committed by some of the indigenous German population on refugees/foreigners since the wall came down than vice versa i'll wager.
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Stuk Top half 19 Jul 16 1.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
There will have been more stabbings, axe attacks and racist attacks and murders committed by some of the indigenous German population on refugees/foreigners since the wall came down than vice versa i'll wager. That makes it okay then? How many Germans have asked for access into Afghanistan and then gone on to attack them? That would be a more relevant comparison. Germany has lost more troops trying to help Afghanistan than they have in any conflict since WW2.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 16 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
He didn't say he was there under freedom of movement, it was under Merkel's bonkers anyone can come in plan. He was an unaccompanied minor (who were deemed vulnerable and harmless by anyone in favour of allowing migrants to come to Europe unhindered) and was living with foster parents. So a lone kid, claiming Asylum from Afghanistan, a country which at the best of times, has been at war, for 40 years, and in its most peaceful period, was run by a murderous regime of religious fanatics, who were engaged in a civil war. Can't think why they would grant a lone teen kid, with no parents, asylum.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 16 1.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
There will have been more stabbings, axe attacks and racist attacks and murders committed by some of the indigenous German population on refugees/foreigners since the wall came down than vice versa i'll wager. Funny you should mention this, but I've just been watching NSU German History X. There was a serious spate of racially motivated, neo-Nazi murders through out the late 90s to 2000s and Neo-Nazi terrorists.
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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Jul 16 1.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
That makes it okay then? How many Germans have asked for access into Afghanistan and then gone on to attack them? That would be a more relevant comparison. Germany has lost more troops trying to help Afghanistan than they have in any conflict since WW2.
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blackpalacefan 19 Jul 16 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Funny you should mention this, but I've just been watching NSU German History X. There was a serious spate of racially motivated, neo-Nazi murders through out the late 90s to 2000s and Neo-Nazi terrorists. Sorry didn't you get the memo, if a racist european murders someone it's genrally because they have bravely stuggled with mentally illness for decades and have been under a lot of stress, finally cracking while out getting shopping for an elderly housebound neighbour after doing a sponsored walk for bone cancer.
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Ouzo Dan 19 Jul 16 1.37pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
So a lone kid, claiming Asylum from Afghanistan, a country which at the best of times, has been at war, for 40 years, and in its most peaceful period, was run by a murderous regime of religious fanatics, who were engaged in a civil war. Can't think why they would grant a lone teen kid, with no parents, asylum. maybe they should screen people for mental damage before allowing them to enter. This kid grew up living in a s*** hole, would no doubt have a comparable level of intelligence to that of a medieval peasant, would have had a strict Islamic upbringing at the hands of the Taliban & and is then plonked straight into Germany where he is surrounded by infidels & kafirs, A world so removed from what he is used to, it's little wonder he got all stabby & axey. It doesn't matter how he gained access to the country, Germany's only goal is to reduce wages & f*** it's own low skilled workforce. There will be an unlimited amount of people just like him, of course there will be more
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Stuk Top half 19 Jul 16 1.38pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
So a lone kid, claiming Asylum from Afghanistan, a country which at the best of times, has been at war, for 40 years, and in its most peaceful period, was run by a murderous regime of religious fanatics, who were engaged in a civil war. Can't think why they would grant a lone teen kid, with no parents, asylum. Vulnerable wasn't he... Until he decided to attack those in the country that gave him protection from all those things you mentioned. Really nice way to repay them. Arriving as a 16 year old, it's hardly as if he couldn't make rational decisions. A load of people on here want the right to vote to be extended to them. Who's to say that he wasn't an economic migrant who heard Merkel's all our welcome speeches?
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Stuk Top half 19 Jul 16 1.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
That makes it okay then?
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Ouzo Dan 19 Jul 16 1.42pm | |
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Double post Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jul 2016 1.43pm)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 16 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Vulnerable wasn't he... Until he decided to attack those in the country that gave him protection from all those things you mentioned. Really nice way to repay them. Arriving as a 16 year old, it's hardly as if he couldn't make rational decisions. A load of people on here want the right to vote to be extended to them. Who's to say that he wasn't an economic migrant who heard Merkel's all our welcome speeches? Obviously, with the benefit of hindsight, he shouldn't have been granted Asylum - Problem is, how can you reasonable predict someone will do something in the future? Given he's from Afghanistan, its likely he'd have come via asylum. Economic migration from there is pretty difficult.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 16 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
maybe they should screen people for mental damage before allowing them to enter. This kid grew up living in a s*** hole, would no doubt have a comparable level of intelligence to that of a medieval peasant, would have had a strict Islamic upbringing at the hands of the Taliban & and is then plonked straight into Germany where he is surrounded by infidels & kafirs, A world so removed from what he is used to, it's little wonder he got all stabby & axey. It doesn't matter how he gained access to the country, Germany's only goal is to reduce wages & f*** it's own low skilled workforce. There will be an unlimited amount of people just like him, of course there will be more
By definition of Asylum, people are very likely to have experienced trauma and psychological damage. If they came from stable countries, with reasonable governments and powers, we'd refuse them asylum. As for detecting mental damage, it doesn't really work like that. The bolded bit is incorrect, there isn't an unlimited number of people like him. There probably are more, but unlimited seems a bit contradictory with the fact that actual violent Islamic militancy in the European nations makes up a very tiny percentage of the Muslim community. Its far to complicated for x= good b= bad.
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