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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 09 Mar 17 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I just stopped arguing with him in the end. He never responds to any of my Facebook statuses so I didn't know he even saw them. But I had a pop at Gary Lineker, Lily Allen and Katy Perry and you'd think I'd buggered his dad again or something.


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Mar 17 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Is this something that people do when the argument is turning to the left?

But then it's a turn to the right.

Let's do the timewarp agaaain....

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Mar 17 12.55pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

It's what people with low self esteem do to make themselves feel superior over others, or is used by guilt racked middle class types whom agonise over the 'privilege' they enjoy and use virtue signalling as a hollow way to justify themselves, please see my illustration of this in a previous post.

But does it mean they're wrong?

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But then it's a turn to the right.

Let's do the timewarp agaaain....

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Mar 17 1.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But then it's a turn to the right.

Let's do the timewarp agaaain....

 


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I love this term, it neatly encapsulates one of the most annoying aspects of the politically pious.

I don't think it is over-used but rather there is so much virtue signalling going on in today's politically correct culture that it can be mapped to behaviours everyday.

If people lived by the principles that they themselves would have others live by.....then I think it would be applied less often.

 


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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 09 Mar 17 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


EFA

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 09 Mar 17 2.15pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I love this term, it neatly encapsulates one of the most annoying aspects of the politically pious.

I don't think it is over-used but rather there is so much virtue signalling going on in today's politically correct culture that it can be mapped to behaviours everyday.

If people lived by the principles that they themselves would have others live by.....then I think it would be applied less often.

And what would they be?

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

But does it mean they're wrong?

If you are saying something to make yourself feel better about something but then doing the opposite of what you say, then it is wrong.

Or do you believe outright hypocrisy is a desirable human trait?

 


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One of my biggest gripes is "celebs" that seem to believe their opinion is more valid than that of anyone else because they happened to do a funny fat man dance on The Office 15 years ago or so (for example).

My mate argued, "well they have the ear of the people and therefore what harm is done if they use that platform to spread important messages?"

Which is fine if they are up on a soapbox saying poverty is bad, or something you can't really disagree with. But that's not what they are doing. Ricky Gervais (oh, now the cat's out the bag who I was referring to) said something along the lines of (and I know I am only paraphrasing) "If you voted for XYZ you are a c**t" and he got lots of Twitter likes. But there's a problem there, his gripes are with HIS perceived motives someone might have for voting for XYZ. And all of his idiotic fans go "Well, I liked that scene in The Office where Gareth's stapler was in some jelly" and think that Gervais must be a sage commentator on politics and that they must align with his thinking in some way...ok my example is a bit over the top and I appreciate not everyone is retarded enough to follow this line of thinking. But some do is my point and that almost makes it irresponsible.

So then I went on to debate with my friend actually about how I hate that the media give these people credence. in actual fact headlines that read "Ricky Gervais/Lily Allen/Jim Davidson (I threw a bone to the lefties with that one) have said voting for XYZ is good/bad" ought to be no different than headlines which read "Binman in Slough says voting for XYZ is good/bad".

I started this comment thinking I'd make a valid point. If there was one in there then it was probably more by luck than judgement.

 




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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Mar 17 3.56pm

Pointing out something bad in itself isn't virtue signalling, it's pointing out something bad.

Yes there are those that , as Melanie philips pointed out on the show what this thread referred to, that go out of their way to be seen to be do gooders.

However in the context of an internet forum political discussion the term is used only to shut down debate without responding to the point (which would be the useful way to proceed) and negate a response.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Mar 17 4.07pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

If you are saying something to make yourself feel better about something but then doing the opposite of what you say, then it is wrong.

Or do you believe outright hypocrisy is a desirable human trait?

I think hypocrisy is the natural state of people. However, you can still be correct in a belief, even if you do not adhere to it. Now I think if you do the complete opposite, your integrity is called into question, but it doesn't mean that something you said is devoid of value or meaning.

That's dangerous reasoning, which ends up with the idea that someone who's rich cannot have views of value about the poor (irrespective of whether their views make sense).

 


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