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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 14 Mar 17 9.27am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

24 hour news services reduce the quality of news services.

That's why I switch off after 23 hours and have a kip.

 




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Pista Flag Bristol 14 Mar 17 10.07am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


isn't this utter shlt ? I despair

That's why they developed Men and Motors and Sky One. So that people like you had something to watch.

 


old time bbs refugee

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 14 Mar 17 12.12pm

The BBC is deliberately being run down.

There are many things wrong with the BBC, for example, cronyism, right wing news bias, etc. but deserves support, to keep quality up, rather the current downwards spiral. For example sport for all.

I am afraid its value will only truly be recognised after it has gone, and you all have FOX News.

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 14 Mar 17 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

I gave the BBC up for Lent. I'll let you know how much I missed it when it gets to Easter.

 




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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 14 Mar 17 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

I preferred it when it was less obvious about its role as a government propaganda organ and when it was less obsessed with "news" from across the Atlantic.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (14 Mar 2017 1.15pm)

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 14 Mar 17 1.29pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

LOL. It has a pretty thorough and sincere attempt at consistently presenting liberal-left views.


Hah! I wondered how long it would be before some Express reader popped up with this tired, hackneyed, largely unfair, uninformed and utterly boring criticism of the BBC.

This is an allegation that probably applies to much of the staff at the BBC; but not to the content. If you speak to someone from the left they will say that the station is aggressively right wing (Corbyn hardly comes off well). If I have to form a view I would say it was like the Times: pro-establishment. It has to be. It is a survival skill it has developed based on the fact that the government of the day controls the purse strings.

If you trace this dreary bias attack to its source, you will find right wing ideologues whose critique is based wholly on principles of full free market enterprise and who see a semi nationalised industry as a post war anachronism. However, Radio 4, 6 Music, BBC 4 and one of this countries' national treasures - the World Service - would not exist in such a system.

The Tory party often use this allegation in order to keep the Beeb in line. This is a more dangerous ploy. The print media has long been largely under right wing control. However, the Broadcast media has worked hard to maintain its middle ground integrity - the BBC included.

Keeping the station under constant scrutiny from right, left and middle is an important check on a broadcaster that informs the opinion of millions of people. However, nobody with a brain really believes it is a left wing propaganda vehicle. And mindlessly spouting this critique only serves at to undermine a vital and world wide respected and envied institution.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 14 Mar 17 3.28pm

Originally posted by silvertop


Hah! I wondered how long it would be before some Express reader popped up with this tired, hackneyed, largely unfair, uninformed and utterly boring criticism of the BBC.

This is an allegation that probably applies to much of the staff at the BBC; but not to the content. If you speak to someone from the left they will say that the station is aggressively right wing (Corbyn hardly comes off well). If I have to form a view I would say it was like the Times: pro-establishment. It has to be. It is a survival skill it has developed based on the fact that the government of the day controls the purse strings.

If you trace this dreary bias attack to its source, you will find right wing ideologues whose critique is based wholly on principles of full free market enterprise and who see a semi nationalised industry as a post war anachronism. However, Radio 4, 6 Music, BBC 4 and one of this countries' national treasures - the World Service - would not exist in such a system.

The Tory party often use this allegation in order to keep the Beeb in line. This is a more dangerous ploy. The print media has long been largely under right wing control. However, the Broadcast media has worked hard to maintain its middle ground integrity - the BBC included.

Keeping the station under constant scrutiny from right, left and middle is an important check on a broadcaster that informs the opinion of millions of people. However, nobody with a brain really believes it is a left wing propaganda vehicle. And mindlessly spouting this critique only serves at to undermine a vital and world wide respected and envied institution.

Can’t even remember the last time I saw a copy of the Express, some years ago I think. Strange how it is the left who always spring to the defence of the liberal-left BBC, I wonder why that is. World Service a ‘national treasure’, LOL. If this institution is so wonderful, why does it have to be funded by the public (many of whom disagree with the constant liberal-left lines that it takes). Surely, if it is so great, it would succeed as a business.
Now I'll get ready for the usual abuse, I'm brainless, a fascist, I read the wrong newspapers, don't appreciate the, music on Radio 6 (I'll plead guilty to that one)' ...

Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Mar 2017 4.04pm)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Mar 17 5.48pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the bbc seems to love the multicultural agenda. They went bonkers when the nation voted brexit.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 14 Mar 17 6.30pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

The BBC website seems, to me at least, to be a tad patronising. News and other items seem to be written in such a way as to be aimed at 12 year olds. Similarly, the TV news reporting comes across as rather more superficial than I remember it some years ago. I guess they don't know who or what their demographic is.

In terms of light entertainment, it really has gone down the sh*tter. Mrs Brown's Boys, Miranda Hart, Josh Widdicombe, Russell Howard, Bake Off, EastEnders, Strictly and all the other bland bollocks - all of it anodyne, cheap crap designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

BUT

We have BBC4, almost all its radio output, documentaries, natural history, (some) high quality drama, University Challenge and Only Connect.

In summary, although the news and politics coverage is rather bland and unchallenging (and perhaps not as subjective as it once had a reputation for being) and the light entertainment is embarrassing or just piss-poor, as a public service broadcaster and for what it manages to achieve, it does a remarkable job. As Kermie rightly pointed out, compare it with the quality of tv and radio in other countries and it really is something special and is, indeed, almost globally envied.

I'll keep it as it is, thanks.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Mar 17 7.22pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the coverage and analysis of football on RTE and Sky tv is excellent.

BBC's is toilet.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 14 Mar 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

It amazes me that people have no idea what an asset the BBC is. When those with an agenda finally kill it off you will only have yourselves to blame. If in any doubt, just look at the US. When the BBC goes the only channel that will be reasonably independent will be Al Jazeera.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 14 Mar 17 10.17pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It amazes me that people have no idea what an asset the BBC is. When those with an agenda finally kill it off you will only have yourselves to blame. If in any doubt, just look at the US. When the BBC goes the only channel that will be reasonably independent will be Al Jazeera.

Be careful what you wish for.

Perhaps they should restrict themselves to costume dramas, they are very good at that, and scrap their 'news' reporting.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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