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AdventureEagle Guildford 20 May 17 10.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Cash flow and Profit and Loss are different. You run out of cash, even if you are profitable, it's game over. This will be to manage cash flow. Yes. This will be to spend in the transfer window before the Season revenue comes in. All part of the plan, and not spending beyond our means I'm sure.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 20 May 17 10.11pm | |
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Originally posted by martin2412
I'm not 100% that this is fully kosher. If you see the attached snapshot, it has the address asHolmesdale Road, whereas Selhurst Park's address is Whitehorse Lane ??? I'd be surprised. Someone who knows a lot about the club tweeted it earlier today. I won't name them as they have their Twitter feed set to private. But they know their stuff.
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palacer Crystal Palace 20 May 17 10.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Cash flow and Profit and Loss are different. You run out of cash, even if you are profitable, it's game over. This will be to manage cash flow. Yes cash flow is vital
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radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 21 May 17 12.16am | |
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Is it through wonga
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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 21 May 17 2.25am | |
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The documents show the lender is Barclays Bank and the funds being used to secure the loan are stipulated payments that have been verified by the Premier League. The problem may be that certain payments, such as UK TV and Radio and Overseas Broadcast rights are made later in the year so that Palace's "cash on hand" is lower at this time. Therefore, in order to do business in the transfer window and sign player contracts under league and FA rules, the cash on hand must be higher. Hence the loan. It is not comparable to the loan that Simon Jordan made with Agilo, the legalized loan shark outfit that was the direct cause of the 2010 administration. This loan is completely secured and after reading the documents that the OP posted, appears to be fairly standard practice in the football industry. Having said that, given our financial history, it is something that at first blush would be worrying but as other posters have said there is a big difference between Simon Jordan et. al. and previous chairmen/boards. Edited by kenbarr (21 May 2017 2.29am)
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Midlands Eagle 21 May 17 6.56am | |
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Three pages of pure speculation and guesswork some of which is miles away from the mark. Something that none of you seem to have picked up on is that this is not the first charge levied by Barclays Bank as they took charges over the assets in both October and November 2016 Like everyone else here I have no idea what the borrowing is for or indeed how much is involved but am happy to wait until the next accounts are published where it's likely that the borrowings will get a mention in the notes
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dp Tunbridge Wells 21 May 17 7.50am | |
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I don't think this is particularly uncommon. The revenue from TV money etc., comes in at certain times of the year whereas the expenditure is needed at other times when the Transfer Window is open. Also, I imagine that players, selling clubs and agents want to see that you have the means to pay. Borrowing money against future revenue is a bit like factoring in any other business - you sell the debt on at an earlier stage, get the money early but pay a premium - this just seems like a grown up version of that. Edited by dp (21 May 2017 7.51am)
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Midlands Eagle 21 May 17 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by dp
Borrowing money against future revenue is a bit like factoring in any other business - you sell the debt on at an earlier stage, get the money early but pay a premium - this just seems like a grown up version of that. We don't know that the club have been borrowing money against future revenues as all we know is that the funding (for whatever purposes) is secured against future revenues. It may be the same thing but there again it may not as I re-iterate, we don't know and are just guessing
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Goldfiinger Just down the road 21 May 17 9.10am | |
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Did someone say we spend £70-80m a year on wages? Surely that doesn't leave enough left for transfers, running of the club, policing of matches etc. We'd be left with £20m for transfers plus what little else our stadium brings in. I thought wages were more like £50m/year. ?
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slubglurge welling 21 May 17 9.12am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I am guessing it is a short term loan. Possibly to finance signings? I don't think we get our next tv payment until August, so given our current squad it would make sense. Found this re PL finances. I agree. If we are going for Sakho we need the money fast and before August
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Midlands Eagle 21 May 17 9.15am | |
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I've had a read of the whole charge document and my brain is now hurting. It does seem to be an assignment to Barclays of the rights to receive TV monies and it seems that the bank have lent the club monies on two occasions just prior to transfer windows opening and are being re-imbursed directly from the TV income. As dp has suggested it is a form of factoring although I'm not sure how solid the security is in the event that Palace went bust as I'm guessing that some if not all of the TV monies would be withheld anyway.
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Kermit8 Hevon 21 May 17 9.39am | |
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Guessing this means that the £50mill from the yanks has probably been spent then. Even little Exeter are knocking down their Old Stand - exact replica of ours but half the size - and building a new one now.
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