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sprites Auckland 14 Jun 17 5.59am
Originally posted by gambler Got to look at the players. They're just not good enough. It's not their fault. Just have to accept it. They are though. Players like Kane and Ali are tearing up international defenders week in week out. Add in the likes of Sterling, Barkley, Rashford...it's an exciting young team.
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Auckland 14 Jun 17 5.59am

Originally posted by gambler

Got to look at the players.

They're just not good enough. It's not their fault. Just have to accept it.

They are though. Players like Kane and Ali are tearing up international defenders week in week out. Add in the likes of Sterling, Barkley, Rashford...it's an exciting young team.

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jun 17 8.15am
Just do what Spain did many years ago.Bring on the youth (ie U20's)this will mean a few disastorous tournaments along the way (no change there then)but they can grow together collectively. The major stumbling block to this , is the lack of game time these players get with their clubs because they are predominantly signed by "big clubs". Unfortunately with the Premier League forever recruiting foreign players, this will always be to the detriment of our national team. One thought on last night...do we really not have a natural left back who could have played? Walker certainly isn't.
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Horsham 14 Jun 17 8.15am

Just do what Spain did many years ago.Bring on the youth (ie U20's)this will mean a few disastorous tournaments along the way (no change there then)but they can grow together collectively.
The major stumbling block to this , is the lack of game time these players get with their clubs because they are predominantly signed by "big clubs". Unfortunately with the Premier League forever recruiting foreign players, this will always be to the detriment of our national team.
One thought on last night...do we really not have a natural left back who could have played? Walker certainly isn't.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Jun 17 10.53am
Originally posted by YT England are just shte I'm afraid. As I posted on the recent 'Wilf' thread, I wouldn't watch England these days if you gave me free beer and dancing girls. Apologies for the repetition therefore. I would, but I'd really be pretending to watch. England are st, but free beer and dancing girls, is definitely something I could get behind, for the price of pretending to give a s*t about England. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 14 Jun 17 10.53am

Originally posted by YT

England are just sh*te I'm afraid. As I posted on the recent 'Wilf' thread, I wouldn't watch England these days if you gave me free beer and dancing girls. Apologies for the repetition therefore.

I would, but I'd really be pretending to watch.

England are s**t, but free beer and dancing girls, is definitely something I could get behind, for the price of pretending to give a s**t about England.

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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 11.24am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I would, but I'd really be pretending to watch. England are st, but free beer and dancing girls, is definitely something I could get behind, for the price of pretending to give a st about England. Grrrrrr. Yet it has provided the opportunities for everything you have. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jun 17 11.24am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I would, but I'd really be pretending to watch.

England are s**t, but free beer and dancing girls, is definitely something I could get behind, for the price of pretending to give a s**t about England.

Grrrrrr.

Yet it has provided the opportunities for everything you have.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 11.54am
Originally posted by chateauferret Incredible isn't it? I think I've only just realised what garbage he is. There's no excuse for getting such s* performances out of such accomplished players but his tactics are bollocks, his selections are questionable and of experience he has, as you say, bugger all. And look who they sacked for pretty much nothing. Edited by chateauferret (14 Jun 2017 1.44am) Big Sam must be satisfied he proved his point. Beat a bunch of the top sides with palace in a few weeks and England rely on a last minute goal to draw with Scotland and get beaten by 10 man France. COYP**
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Caterham 14 Jun 17 11.54am

Originally posted by chateauferret

Incredible isn't it? I think I've only just realised what garbage he is. There's no excuse for getting such s*** performances out of such accomplished players but his tactics are bollocks, his selections are questionable and of experience he has, as you say, bugger all.

And look who they sacked for pretty much nothing.

Edited by chateauferret (14 Jun 2017 1.44am)

Big Sam must be satisfied he proved his point. Beat a bunch of the top sides with palace in a few weeks and England rely on a last minute goal to draw with Scotland and get beaten by 10 man France.

COYP

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Pierre Purley 14 Jun 17 12.13pm
Players weren't exactly exerting themselves at any point during that friendly last night. Some of the team looked out of position (Alli?) played far to slowly especially when France went down to 10. Midfield failed to create, defence far to slow and cumbersome who selected that trio? Sorry got to do better than that Southgate. I bet Sam had a bloody good laugh from his villa!!
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Purley 14 Jun 17 12.13pm

Players weren't exactly exerting themselves at any point during that friendly last night.
Some of the team looked out of position (Alli?) played far to slowly especially when France went down to 10.
Midfield failed to create, defence far to slow and cumbersome who selected that trio?
Sorry got to do better than that Southgate.

I bet Sam had a bloody good laugh from his villa!!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 17 12.22pm
Given Southgate's record in football management, do the players have any respect for him ?
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South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 17 12.22pm

Given Southgate's record in football management, do the players have any respect for him ?

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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 14 Jun 17 2.07pm
Originally posted by chateauferret Incredible isn't it? I think I've only just realised what garbage he is. There's no excuse for getting such s* performances out of such accomplished players but his tactics are bollocks, his selections are questionable and of experience he has, as you say, bugger all. And look who they sacked for pretty much nothing.** Edited by chateauferret (14 Jun 2017 1.44am) Yes, but if they hadn't, we would probably be playing in the championship next season!
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Originally posted by chateauferret

And look who they sacked for pretty much nothing.

Edited by chateauferret (14 Jun 2017 1.44am)

Yes, but if they hadn't, we would probably be playing in the championship next season!

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 14 Jun 17 5.56pm
Well, Jurgen Klinsmann is available now that he has no chance of getting a job anywhere else. Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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Well, Jurgen Klinsmann is available now that he has no chance of getting a job anywhere else.

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chateauferret 14 Jun 17 6.40pm
Originally posted by kenbarr Well, Jurgen Klinsmann is available now that he has no chance of getting a job anywhere else. If they want a real joke appointment I believe McCoist is available. ============ The Ferret ============
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14 Jun 17 6.40pm

Originally posted by kenbarr

Well, Jurgen Klinsmann is available now that he has no chance of getting a job anywhere else.

If they want a real joke appointment I believe McCoist is available.

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Jamesrichards8 14 Jun 17 7.01pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider What needs replacing is the FA committee this. i don't know why no one else advocates this. they've made poor appointment after poor appointment, and sacking allardyce should have been the final nail in their coffin when they replaced him with southgate. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (14 Jun 2017 7.02pm) When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

What needs replacing is the FA committee

this. i don't know why no one else advocates this. they've made poor appointment after poor appointment, and sacking allardyce should have been the final nail in their coffin when they replaced him with southgate.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (14 Jun 2017 7.02pm)

When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...

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