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miles18 Flag Telford 25 Jul 17 12.01pm

Punch on the bench sounds better.

 



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Originally posted by miles18

Punch on the bench sounds better.

When jedinak was captain he didn't play every game, under pardew.

 


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View gambler's Profile gambler Flag Kent 25 Jul 17 12.07pm Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

Can't carry anyone in the premier league.

Punch at rwb? A quick way to ruin the last few years progress

 

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View MikeCrete's Profile MikeCrete Flag Crete 25 Jul 17 12.11pm Send a Private Message to MikeCrete Add MikeCrete as a friend

Punch at best on the bench,at best; better if we sold him & used the £ elsewhere in the squad.

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 25 Jul 17 12.19pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Oh dear!

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 25 Jul 17 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Forget a square peg in a round hole... This would be like trying to push a Toblerone through the eye of a needle

 

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 25 Jul 17 1.00pm

Originally posted by gambler

Can't carry anyone in the premier league.

Punch at rwb? A quick way to ruin the last few years progress

We made progress last season? Suppose the electronic entry system is progress but on the pitch we took a step bacl

 

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View Loz83's Profile Loz83 Flag Crawley 25 Jul 17 1.07pm Send a Private Message to Loz83 Add Loz83 as a friend

He had his best games for us as a right winger so it's not too bad a suggestion! We should go for van der Weil he would be cheap so we could spend money elsewhere!

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 25 Jul 17 1.31pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Puncheon can't play RWB in a million years. He switches off defensively, isn't much of a tackler, doesn't have a great engine and is left footed. I can't think of a single attribute that is needed to play RWB that Puncheon possesses.

Unless we make signings, it is almost certain that we will use Ward at RWB. This is for a number of reasons:

1. Ward is fine. He's much better than some on here give him credit for. Nothing flash, and won't add a massive amount to the attack, but compare his generally tidy defending over the last few years to the huge gaps left behind and inside, last minute lunges and general scattiness of Souare on the other side. Ward is steady, and there is a lot to be said for that.

2. The other option is Kelly. Ward is better than Kelly, who has only come to life as a centre back, and even then only for a short while (so far). Otherwise he has been a disappointment and not able to keep Ward out under three managers so far.

3. We will need at least one more very good centre back if we are to play with three of them every week, as you would want to have five or six to see you through. We have Dann, Delaney, Tompkins and now Riedewald. Even if Kelly is counted as a centre back we are still short of numbers and quality, so the money we have will go on a centre back and not a new RWB, meaning the one we have (Ward) will play.

4. If we use Townsend at RWB we will need to find someone else to play in the front 3. Sako or any of the kids are nowhere near as good as Townsend in that role, so we'd need to sign a new attacker just to fill the gap left by moving Townsend to RWB. Attackers (good ones anyway) eat up the budget like no-one else, and given that we need at least one more centre back (Chambers I presume) we won't have the money left over for a new goalscoring, match-winning forward, so we'll have to use the ones we've got. We've only got one decent CF, so Benteke plays, and we've only got two decent wing forwards, so Zaha and Townsend play too. There is nobody else even close to the required standard to play up there.

I can imagine we would push Townsend out to RWB if we are chasing a game, or going balls-out for a win at home, and maybe use Wickham or someone up top, but generally its not going to be his position.

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Puncheon can't play RWB in a million years. He switches off defensively, isn't much of a tackler, doesn't have a great engine and is left footed. I can't think of a single attribute that is needed to play there that Puncheon possesses.

Unless we make signings, it is almost certain that we will use Ward at RWB. This is for a number of reasons:

1. Ward is fine. He's much better than some on here give him credit for. Nothing flash, and won't add a massive amount to the attack, but compare his generally tidy defending over the last few years to the huge gaps left behind and inside, last minute lunges and general scattiness of Souare on the other side. Ward is steady, and there is a lot to be said for that.

2. The other option is Kelly. Ward is better than Kelly, who has only come to life as a centre back, and even then only for a short while (so far). Otherwise he has been a disappointment and not able to keep Ward out under three managers so far.

3. We will need at least one more very good centre back if we are to play with three of them every week, as you would want to have five or six to see you through. We have Dann, Delaney, Tompkins and now Riedewald. Even if Kelly is counted as a centre back we are still short of numbers and quality, so the money we have will go on a centre back and not a new RWB, meaning the one we have (Ward) will play.

4. If we use Townsend at RWB we will need to find someone else to play in the front 3. Sako or any of the kids are nowhere near as good as Townsend in that role, so we'd need to sign a new attacker just to fill the gap left by moving Townsend to RWB. Attackers (good ones anyway) eat up the budget like no-one else, and given that we need at least one more centre back (Chambers I presume) we won't have the money left over for a new goalscoring, match-winning forward, so we'll have to use the ones we've got. We've only got one decent CF, so Benteke plays, and we've only got two decent wing forwards, so Zaha and Townsend play too. There is nobody else even close to the required standard to play up there.

I can imagine we would push Townsend out to RWB if we are chasing a game, or going ball-out for a win at home, and maybe use Wickham or someone up top, but generally its not going to be his position.

If the 2 pre season games are anything to go by he clearly doesn't fancy ward or Kelly in that wingback role. He also choose to play Luka in the back 3, instead of Tomkins. They maybe 'good' defenders but they clearly not rated with the ball at their feet by de Boer.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 25 Jul 17 1.40pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

If the 2 pre season games are anything to go by he clearly doesn't fancy ward or Kelly in that wingback role. He also choose to play Luka in the back 3, instead of Tomkins. They maybe 'good' defenders but they clearly not rated with the ball at their feet by de Boer.

Pre season is as much about getting minutes into legs as anything else, so we shouldn't read too much into who plays where. I can imagine that De Boer wants to look at different options at the back in case we can't sign anyone else to play there, but I doubt that all adds up to Townsend playing RWB for the reasons set out in my post.

 

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View Oliver's Profile Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 25 Jul 17 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

What about fans favourite, Julian Speroni? Train up to not reflexively use his hands and I reckon he'd be just as good up the right hand side as Joel Ward. Thoughts?

 


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