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Sums up how some big internet companies could be acting like the thought police by promoting their agenda and routing out dissenters.


Be afraid, be very afraid.

 

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.TUX. Flag 07 Aug 17 6.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

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Sums up how some big internet companies could be acting like the thought police by promoting their agenda and routing out dissenters.


Be afraid, be very afraid.

100% agreed.

 


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wordup Flag 07 Aug 17 6.28pm

America is certainly a country of contrasts and extremes when it comes to the workplace and society. You have progressives shouting down a man who clearly at least has a point - in my view this type of job does tend to appeal more to men.

Then on the other hand, you have a president gunning to kick out patriots serving their country because he decides out of nowhere that they're now unable to do a job they've been doing fine for years.

 

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Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion.

Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Aug 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion.

Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous.

This is the kind of quasi religious blinkered progressivism that encouraged the Brexit result.
It disturbs me because it serves an agenda and one that does not serve the majority.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Aug 17 3.12am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is the kind of quasi religious blinkered progressivism that encouraged the Brexit result.
It disturbs me because it serves an agenda and one that does not serve the majority.

The guy who wrote the memo which had evidence backed contentions behind it. The response from Google was just your typical....'this doesn't reflect our values' non evidence, 'feelings' inspired nonsense.

There is literally people in jobs that exist only to push an agenda that has zero connection to the realities of male/female behaviour or cultural choices of different groups.

It highlights a particular criticism I have of 'progressivism' that it doesn't recognise human nature enough. It's prepared to demonise quite rational behaviour if it differs from what it wants the world to be....basically idealism over reality....it doesn't actually help people much.

I see no problem with encouragement with...say wishing for greater female numbers in tech jobs but what a company like Google do goes far beyond that.

 


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Google fires diversity memo author.

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Google are a disgrace.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion.

Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous.

Academia is worse, believe me. I don't doubt universities operate blacklists in exactly the same way as has been described within Google.

Edited by davenotamonkey (08 Aug 2017 9.07am)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Google fires diversity memo author.

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Google are a disgrace.

...and this is why I remain anonymous.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Aug 17 9.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Academia is worse, believe me. I don't doubt universities operate blacklists in exactly the same way as has been described within Google.

Edited by davenotamonkey (08 Aug 2017 9.07am)

Having worked in secondary schools if you aren't left wing you basically learn to keep your mouth shut.

It's not good....institutions ideally shouldn't be dominated by a particular political bias....but they are.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Aug 17 9.21am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

It is no surprise who the OP is here, a man on a mission.

The HOL response is surprising. It's a free market so the guy should have joined another company if he doesn't like the Google ethos. From what little I have read the memo is dodgy pseudo science. He or she hasn't read their John Stuart Mill.

Attacking the company goes against his (or her) contract and naturally led to the sack. End of.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Aug 17 9.41am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It is no surprise who the OP is here, a man on a mission.

The HOL response is surprising. It's a free market so the guy should have joined another company if he doesn't like the Google ethos. From what little I have read the memo is dodgy pseudo science. He or she hasn't read their John Stuart Mill.

Attacking the company goes against his (or her) contract and naturally led to the sack. End of.

No, sorry, that isn't on in my view.

Please tell me the non progressive silicon valley company that this guy could be employed at? When the market you have skills in it pretty much political at one end I'm afraid that's not much of a choice.

Maybe you should read the memo as it was backed up by statistics from what I've read. Please, I'm eager to know what you consider 'dodgy pseudo science' from it? I'm eager to know that.

The person who wrote it considers themselves a classic liberal and the memo reads very mild to me. He even recommends actual approaches which he feels would more effectively increase female participation in the profession.

If this was an attack, it's a very mild one....The response has been aggressive.....It seems to me that even speaking reality gets you fired. I suspect the person knew the risk they were taking....hence the anonymity....But that didn't save him it appears.

Google are a disgrace.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 10.19am)

 


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