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 CrazyBadger  Ware 11 Aug 17 8.53am |
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Originally posted by Master Coin
Sky sports have got a Pardew article with his verdict on Palace. Here is a link It contains the following little gem:- "We lost our left-back Pape Souare to a car accident in September and had left ourselves with no left-footed back-up there. It became a massive problem for us and it was one that we did not foresee." f*** off you prick. Unfortunate, yes. Unforseeable, absolutely not. How you can call yourself a PL manager and not plan appropriately for this by having adequate cover in each position is beyond me There's some insightful genius in that article "We started to change it[the syetem] in an evolutionary way but we lost players and others lost confidence and it did not go so well" "Zaha's the Main Man" (paraphrased!) and the bit about Souare, above, well that's as much of an admission of guilt as you are likely to get.
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Attachment: | Midlands Eagle 11 Aug 17 9.04am |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
the bit about Souare, above, well that's as much of an admission of guilt as you are likely to get. Not sticking up for Pardew but we don't know that the lack of decent cover at left back was all down to him as it seems that when we buy someone that works out well it's all thanks to Parish but when it goes badly it's down to the manager
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| CrazyBadger Ware 11 Aug 17 9.21am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Not sticking up for Pardew but we don't know that the lack of decent cover at left back was all down to him as it seems that when we buy someone that works out well it's all thanks to Parish but when it goes badly it's down to the manager Maybe, but he said they didn't forsee losing Souare, when they had absolutely no-one else in the squad to play that position...wasn't that his job? - to make sure he had a capable squad. He Didn't say 'We thought we had enough cover if we lost him, but it didn't work out' or 'We tried to bring in cover, but couldn't get who we wanted' which would at least indicate some level of competency.
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| scuffy orpington 11 Aug 17 6.20pm |
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Pardew, Allardyce, and Pulis each average almost exactly 1.2 points per game as Palace manager. In my opinion they all did a good job and FdB will have done a good job too if he can match that. Yes, it went wrong in the latter part of Pardew's reign but taking a struggling team when he first arrive, transforming them, and having them finish in the top half deserves some respect. And then an FA Cup final to boot. They're happy memories for me as a Palace fan and AP will always be part of that. Shame it didn't work out in the long-term but that's football...
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jeeagles  11 Aug 17 6.35pm |
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I think he's getting a lot more hate than he deserves. Last summer people were saying that we'd done excellent work in the transfer window by signing Benteke, Tompkins, Townsend and Mandana. We all knew that we needed to strengthen in other areas but it looked as if we could make do for the time being as the money wasn't there. Parish announced at the end of this season that we bought our way out of trouble in January. Big Sam did even better in that window but now it seems like we don't have much money left for this summer. The Pepe Soure injury was massive, and we conceded loads down the left. With hindsight it was the wrong risk to take but sometime you have to take risks in some areas to allow you to strengthen in others.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Aug 17 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I think he's getting a lot more hate than he deserves. Last summer people were saying that we'd done excellent work in the transfer window by signing Benteke, Tompkins, Townsend and Mandana. We all knew that we needed to strengthen in other areas but it looked as if we could make do for the time being as the money wasn't there. Parish announced at the end of this season that we bought our way out of trouble in January. Big Sam did even better in that window but now it seems like we don't have much money left for this summer. The Pepe Soure injury was massive, and we conceded loads down the left. With hindsight it was the wrong risk to take but sometime you have to take risks in some areas to allow you to strengthen in others. I agree with the overall message of this post.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 11 Aug 17 9.24pm |
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whats also interesting is... pardew came in with palace in trouble, spent £11m and finished 10th fat sam came in with palace in touble, spend £36m and finished 14th then the next year we got to an FA CUP FINAL with pards!!! but you wont hear a bad word said against fat sam...hhmmmm
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| iheartcpfc SE25 12 Aug 17 11.13am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Good to see Pards and hear what he has to say. I would not have sacked him and I feel he would have kept Eagles up. Difficult to see the logic of hiring De Boers who apparently will be turning to 'total' or entertaining which is what Pards is accused of. Defence is the key in my opinion and Pulis and Allardyce were successful here. The Dutch ladies who won the ladies euros last week saved 4 goals from England and Denmark by having defenders on the goal line. D E L U D E D we were going straight back down under that fraud. Thank f*** he's gone
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Aug 17 11.19am |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
whats also interesting is... pardew came in with palace in trouble, spent £11m and finished 10th fat sam came in with palace in touble, spend £36m and finished 14th then the next year we got to an FA CUP FINAL with pards!!! but you wont hear a bad word said against fat sam...hhmmmm Very interesting stats. Pardew came in after we played 20 games and we were in 18th place.
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| ambrose7 Croydon 12 Aug 17 12.34pm |
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If he is genuinely claiming he didn't foresee that we would struggle if Souare was unavailable, he's either lying or extremely inadequate at putting a squad together. I remember loads of posts on this site last summer saying we needed a left back. It was a crazy risk to take and everyone could see it. There were also a lot saying we needed a holding midfielder - Luka came in and it transformed. If we can see it, he has no excuse. Once he knew he had no cover at LB, there was no attempt to patch it up. Not 5 in defence with a wing back (e.g. Townsend) playing deeper, not finding an academy player who actually is a left back and seeing how they do, not moving Ward there straight away after having done an okay job for Pulis (Pardew also had inadequate RB cover even if that was a strategy). There was no plan to shut up shop until January, grind out draws and get a left back in. He just watched us slide down the league, shipping more and more goals each week. In the 3 games we played against Hull, Burnley and Swansea before he was sacked, we shipped 11 goals. And that's without how uncomfortable our attack e.g. Townsend looked playing for him. He had some good moments for us, that first season especially, but there was not a hope in hell we'd have stayed up with him.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 12 Aug 17 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
dont be silly...its much easier to hate on a man rather than have a reasoned opinion. on the whole the guy did well, and of course its his fault our reliable full back smashed his leg to peices in a car accident. He didn't f***ing do well. You must be deluded Brauny. He was an absolute disaster.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Aug 17 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
He didn't f***ing do well. You must be deluded Brauny. He was an absolute disaster. staying up twice & getting to a cup final. absolute disaster! Did you only start supportig palace 5 years ago, id hate to think how you would react to the trevor francis or peter taylor. bloody johnny come latelys
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