What disappoints is the dismantling of The team in the search for a win. No Luca no Patrick V A constantly changing the team. It really does not look like a plan and then bringing on a youngster in a high pressure situation. Does this make any sense and inspire confidence.

Luca is my favourite player ,but the last home game he and PVA were both poor, and on current form they needed a break.
The problem being in my view most of the squad is lacking any kind of form and definitely no confidence .
The answer will be our first Win when it comes fortunes will turn hopefully

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First win is massive of course as first goal will be. I think however that we should acknowledge we were without our two strongest attacking players bar the striker in RLC and Zaha and also Sakho with whom we have so much hope.

I've been from strongly anti-De Boer to 'I told you so, get him out" to now perhaps let's see still very early.

He seems to be showing some pain and hopefully this will drive it. I feel like it is just a case of playing our strongest players in the right formation ATM although we played a very reserved and not too quality team in Burnley today.

If this does not happen there is only so long he can go without goals /points and making mistakes but I will be somewhat disheartened if he is sacked before Southampton.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

The question about Luca and Patrick V A is are they being played in the right position have they got confidence in the tactics. You are taking out two players who can score. The obvious question is why are they poor after being significant last season and not playing them puts additional pressure on others to score.
Do we have the luxury of selecting on a pre determined basis of a tactical approach or do we need to get the best from the players we have by being pragmatic.
I know why we are doing this which is to establish us as a premier league team and not strugglers, however so much was made of a change and we have quickly changed some of the approach because 3-4-3 did not work.
We did seem to dispense with the Sam A approach very quickly after some really impressive performances towards the end of the season and have quickly dispensed with some key players.

This is exactly what I was thinking. None of us know what goes on behind the scenes. For all we know they may be the only players that are not pulling in the same direction. If so of course they have to be left out.
Not saying this is the case but we all have to accept there are reasons for things that we may not ever know.