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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 28 Jan 18 12.49am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

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Good deals (if given playing time):

Umar Sadiq from Torino (parent club Roma) to NAC Breda. He was the best at the Primavera youth competition, really scored a lot. Mind you, he's good for a 20 year old, not a Lewandowski. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him top goalscorer in the Eredivisie in a few years

Theo Bongonda from Celta Vigo to Zulte Waregem

Guido Carillo from Monaco to Southampton

Lois Diony from St Etienne to Bristol

Renato Steffen from Basel to Wolfsburg

Valentin Stocker from Hertha to Basel

Breckalo from Stuttgart to Wolfsburg

Jacob Bruun Larsen from Dortmund to Stuttgart (with the condition that he gets over his injury)

Michal Zyro from Wolverhampton to Charlton (same condition as above)

Ujah from Liaoning to Mainz

Jairo Samperio from Mainz to Las Palmas

Federico Palacios from Leipzig to Nurnberg

Patrick Ebert from free agent to Ingolstadt

Orellana from Valencia to Eibar

Jony from Malaga to Sporting Gijon

Obviously Coutinho to Barcelona

Stafylidis from Augsburg to Stoke(much needed replacement for the old and tiring Pieters)

Fabian Reese from Schalke to Furth

Konstantin Rausch from Koln to Dynamo Moscow

Jurgen Locadia from PSV to Brighton

Theo Walcott from Arsenal to Everton

Oliver Kragl from Crotone to Foggia

Jan Mlakar from Fiorentina to Maribor

Moussa Sow to Bursaspor

Robert Beric from Anderlecht to St Etienne

Jonathan Pitroipa from free agent to Royal Antwerp

All the guys Sparta Rptterdam brought (Dabney dos Santos, Fred Friday, Muhren )- mind you, they're now dead last in the Eredivisie with small chances to be saved. You're in for a surprise

Ntep from Wolfsburg to St Etienne

Koziello from Nice to Koln

Donis Avdijaj from Schalke to Roda

Alex Pritchard from Norwich to Huddersfield

Rangelo Janga from Trencin to Gent

Alberto Bueno from Porto to Malaga

N'Koudou from Tottenham to Burnley

Guidetti from Celta to Alaves

Herve Kage from Kortrijk to Karabukspor

Roger Martinez from Jiangsu to Villareal

Mirallas from Everton to Olympiakos

Gelson Dala from Sporting to Rio Ave


Meh:

Joao Mario- certainly not worth all that fee, though could be decent

Ji Dong Won from Augsburg to Duisburg. He's a pretty bad striker

Samu Garcia from Levante to Malaga

Hernan Perez from Espanyol to Alaves

Rekip from Benfica to Crystal Palace (he was decent as a winger, but is being groomed for professional football in the role of central midfielder, his value is up because of the things he used to do AS A WINGER)

Jose Sosa from Milan to Trabzonspor (he's already 32, why pay 3,5 million for him?)

Fousseni Diabate from Ajaccio to Leicester. I'm risking this one cause he has just scored in the Cup for Leicester, but I can't see him making it in top football, 22 is not so young anymore

Francis Coquelin to Valencia- decent player, but certainly not worth 14 million

Jo to Japan for 10 million. Pure madness for a modest 32 year old player like Jo, the largest fee ever paid by a Japanese club.

You should have asked me every transfer period, cause I was right about everything. But even though Welbeck, Chicharito, di Maria and Depay were great after leaving United, you'll still find people who will say that they were not good enough for United. I mean, it's all about perception. I could give some people a tone of rationality and they still couldn't see it. There were some who said that de Bruyne and Salah were not good enough for Chelsea, when they clearly were (at those ages, you have to take into consideration the age, it's very important)


The only time when I've been in error regarding a player's potential was about Lingard. But I don't think ANYONE anticipated such a season from Lingard after the previous ones.

Edited by mattteo (27 Jan 2018 6.02pm)

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View Icepick Tony's Profile Icepick Tony Flag Chester 28 Jan 18 1.26am Send a Private Message to Icepick Tony Add Icepick Tony as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Good deals (if given playing time):

Umar Sadiq from Torino (parent club Roma) to NAC Breda. He was the best at the Primavera youth competition, really scored a lot. Mind you, he's good for a 20 year old, not a Lewandowski. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him top goalscorer in the Eredivisie in a few years

Theo Bongonda from Celta Vigo to Zulte Waregem

Guido Carillo from Monaco to Southampton

Lois Diony from St Etienne to Bristol

Renato Steffen from Basel to Wolfsburg

Valentin Stocker from Hertha to Basel

Breckalo from Stuttgart to Wolfsburg

Jacob Bruun Larsen from Dortmund to Stuttgart (with the condition that he gets over his injury)

Michal Zyro from Wolverhampton to Charlton (same condition as above)

Ujah from Liaoning to Mainz

Jairo Samperio from Mainz to Las Palmas

Federico Palacios from Leipzig to Nurnberg

Patrick Ebert from free agent to Ingolstadt

Orellana from Valencia to Eibar

Jony from Malaga to Sporting Gijon

Obviously Coutinho to Barcelona

Stafylidis from Augsburg to Stoke(much needed replacement for the old and tiring Pieters)

Fabian Reese from Schalke to Furth

Konstantin Rausch from Koln to Dynamo Moscow

Jurgen Locadia from PSV to Brighton

Theo Walcott from Arsenal to Everton

Oliver Kragl from Crotone to Foggia

Jan Mlakar from Fiorentina to Maribor

Moussa Sow to Bursaspor

Robert Beric from Anderlecht to St Etienne

Jonathan Pitroipa from free agent to Royal Antwerp

All the guys Sparta Rptterdam brought (Dabney dos Santos, Fred Friday, Muhren )- mind you, they're now dead last in the Eredivisie with small chances to be saved. You're in for a surprise

Ntep from Wolfsburg to St Etienne

Koziello from Nice to Koln

Donis Avdijaj from Schalke to Roda

Alex Pritchard from Norwich to Huddersfield

Rangelo Janga from Trencin to Gent

Alberto Bueno from Porto to Malaga

N'Koudou from Tottenham to Burnley

Guidetti from Celta to Alaves

Herve Kage from Kortrijk to Karabukspor

Roger Martinez from Jiangsu to Villareal

Mirallas from Everton to Olympiakos

Gelson Dala from Sporting to Rio Ave


Meh:

Joao Mario- certainly not worth all that fee, though could be decent

Ji Dong Won from Augsburg to Duisburg. He's a pretty bad striker

Samu Garcia from Levante to Malaga

Hernan Perez from Espanyol to Alaves

Rekip from Benfica to Crystal Palace (he was decent as a winger, but is being groomed for professional football in the role of central midfielder, his value is up because of the things he used to do AS A WINGER)

Jose Sosa from Milan to Trabzonspor (he's already 32, why pay 3,5 million for him?)

Fousseni Diabate from Ajaccio to Leicester. I'm risking this one cause he has just scored in the Cup for Leicester, but I can't see him making it in top football, 22 is not so young anymore

Francis Coquelin to Valencia- decent player, but certainly not worth 14 million

Jo to Japan for 10 million. Pure madness for a modest 32 year old player like Jo, the largest fee ever paid by a Japanese club.

You should have asked me every transfer period, cause I was right about everything. But even though Welbeck, Chicharito, di Maria and Depay were great after leaving United, you'll still find people who will say that they were not good enough for United. I mean, it's all about perception. I could give some people a tone of rationality and they still couldn't see it. There were some who said that de Bruyne and Salah were not good enough for Chelsea, when they clearly were (at those ages, you have to take into consideration the age, it's very important)


The only time when I've been in error regarding a player's potential was about Lingard. But I don't think ANYONE anticipated such a season from Lingard after the previous ones.

Edited by mattteo (27 Jan 2018 6.02pm)

Is it my ass. You raved about Niang last season. (Just to name 1) Said he was better than Zaha and would walk this division. You were told by someone who was a milan fan that he would struggle and basically said they were wrong. Then he was garbage. You list off players like they are going out of fashion, give it the big 'I am' and get all hurt and defensive when you get called out. You boast stats on goals per minute like football is FIFA18 and players can swap between clubs and score for fun... Give it a rest will you?

 


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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 28 Jan 18 8.57am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Getting back to the thread Boakye has scored an impressive number of goals, but in the Serbian league not the Italian. Lets go for Dembele or Babacar - this guy could threaten to deceive in the PL

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Why babacar?

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 28 Jan 18 9.01am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by aashman12

Why babacar?

Palace have been linked with him for ages and did (I think) make a bid for him a couple of weeks ago, and he appears to be the kind of striker Roy is looking for

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 28 Jan 18 9.21am Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Palace have been linked with him for ages and did (I think) make a bid for him a couple of weeks ago, and he appears to be the kind of striker Roy is looking for

Babacar is more in the Benteke style of play which mean he is more direct competition for Tekkers but would reduce options in changing style of play.

I think people are trying to compare different styles of strikers with each other. As I see it we have had links with 3 different `styles` of strikers:

1. Targetmen (Competition to Tekkers)for example Ulloa and Babacar

2. More traditional number 9 out and out strikers, quicker finishers, more like a Gayle type. Would offer someone to play off the Targetman. For Example Dembele and Marriott.

3. More playmeker strikers. Would play behind Tekkers more creative with through balls etc but could support in the box number 10's like Eder. I have a hunch Rakip might play in this role.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 28 Jan 18 9.47am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mwncisee

Babacar is more in the Benteke style of play which mean he is more direct competition for Tekkers but would reduce options in changing style of play.

I think people are trying to compare different styles of strikers with each other. As I see it we have had links with 3 different `styles` of strikers:

1. Targetmen (Competition to Tekkers)for example Ulloa and Babacar

2. More traditional number 9 out and out strikers, quicker finishers, more like a Gayle type. Would offer someone to play off the Targetman. For Example Dembele and Marriott.

3. More playmeker strikers. Would play behind Tekkers more creative with through balls etc but could support in the box number 10's like Eder. I have a hunch Rakip might play in this role.

Good points. That is why I am hoping that we sign 2 strikers, Tekkers type and something else. Put pressure on Tekkers to perform without changing the team framework and something different should neither work. Gives us options and also nobody resting on their laurels.

 


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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 28 Jan 18 9.54am Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Good points. That is why I am hoping that we sign 2 strikers, Tekkers type and something else. Put pressure on Tekkers to perform without changing the team framework and something different should neither work. Gives us options and also nobody resting on their laurels.

Yep I agree with you. My preference is for Babacar to give Tekkers competition. He has been looked at for a long time by us, not a first team regular at Fiorentina. His contract ends soon so it buts him in the window where Fiorentina will think they can get decent money for him and he fits the profile of being a younger player who can develop

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 28 Jan 18 10.01am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Good deals (if given playing time):


Edited by mattteo (27 Jan 2018 6.02pm)

I appreciate that Ginger has played to your massive ego but that statement is such a cop-out that's like saying if they become successful they're great bargains.

Ultimately if they're good enough they will get the plane time if they don't they will prove to be failures.

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 28 Jan 18 10.08am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Icepick Tony

Is it my ass. You raved about Niang last season. (Just to name 1) Said he was better than Zaha and would walk this division. You were told by someone who was a milan fan that he would struggle and basically said they were wrong. Then he was garbage.


Niang was not garbage for Watford. See, this is personal perception. No matter how good someone is, if you want to say he was crap, you'll say he was crap. Cause you want to be right!!
Niang came in the winter and became a starter for Watford. How easy is it to be a new signing mid-season and become a starter?? He played all matches as a starter, scored 2 and assisted 2. Not as a striker, but as a left wing. That was decent. It's more than a striker like Benteke has done this season.
They chose not to buy him for 12 million, but it doesn't mean he was garbage. It's not easy to make a decision over a 12 million transfer.

I didn't say he was better than Zaha. But maybe will be in the future, Niang is just 22 and playing in top divisions for 3-4 years.

 

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View jayjaychil's Profile jayjaychil Flag london 28 Jan 18 10.19am Send a Private Message to jayjaychil Add jayjaychil as a friend

More composed, better in the air, braver, more skilful and has much more movement in the box than the excellent benteke!!

Age on his side and plenty of room for improvement. Looks like a handful.

Originally posted by Petereagle


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YouTube footage Looks good


Edited by jayjaychil (28 Jan 2018 10.19am)

 

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View cpfc1976's Profile cpfc1976 Flag Reading 28 Jan 18 10.33am Send a Private Message to cpfc1976 Add cpfc1976 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Niang was not garbage for Watford. See, this is personal perception. No matter how good someone is, if you want to say he was crap, you'll say he was crap. Cause you want to be right!!
Niang came in the winter and became a starter for Watford. How easy is it to be a new signing mid-season and become a starter?? He played all matches as a starter, scored 2 and assisted 2. Not as a striker, but as a left wing. That was decent. It's more than a striker like Benteke has done this season.
They chose not to buy him for 12 million, but it doesn't mean he was garbage. It's not easy to make a decision over a 12 million transfer.

I didn't say he was better than Zaha. But maybe will be in the future, Niang is just 22 and playing in top divisions for 3-4 years.

Hmmm, maybe but they clearly they didn't rate him did they. You just probably know more than the professionals working with him at Watford.

I am not saying that clubs don't get it wrong, plenty of examples of that, sometimes signings just don't work out at certain places, but all things being equal I would say the likelyhood is you aren't right about him and Watford are.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 28 Jan 18 11.13am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by cpfc1976

Hmmm, maybe but they clearly they didn't rate him did they. You just probably know more than the professionals working with him at Watford.

I am not saying that clubs don't get it wrong, plenty of examples of that, sometimes signings just don't work out at certain places, but all things being equal I would say the likelyhood is you aren't right about him and Watford are.

Ok, but there's a difference in them refusing to pay 12 million for him and Icepick saying that I was wrong because he was garbage. Perhaps he's not worth that much, perhaps they have a better system of evaluation than I do, that doesn't mean he's a bad player. Using words like "garbage" and "you were soo wrong" is just unfounded.

Just like for Boakye- he may or may not be Premier League class. That doesn't mean it's wrong to buy him. Coming from Serbia he'd cost at most 7-8 million. If he won't be quite up there in his performances, that fee should be easily recuperated.
If he will, it could be a profit of 20-30 million if he is sold to a top 6 team. He's worth the try

Edited by mattteo (28 Jan 2018 11.15am)

 

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