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YT Oxford 23 May 18 4.20pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol The irony ! Indeed; pots and kettles! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The irony !

Indeed; pots and kettles!

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Midlands Eagle 23 May 18 4.37pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle I expect them to be consistent with their approach. They've decided to effectively brush this under the carpet simply because he's a player. NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players. I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different
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23 May 18 4.37pm

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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I expect them to be consistent with their approach. They've decided to effectively brush this under the carpet simply because he's a player.

NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players.

I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different

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Spiderman Horsham 23 May 18 4.40pm
Originally posted by mattteo Oh my God, he called him a "thing". Oh my God!! Let's ban him!!! God, I hate these feminists, LGBTs and black people who victimise themselves. Nobody can be loved by everyone, get over it! I've had slurs at me because I was fat and I didn't get any defence on social media and nobody was banned for calling me "fat" all my childhood. Not a very helpful reply but the double standards of Brighton are unbelievable. They have been "bleating" on for years about the homophobic chants they endure, the club allegedly have a zero tolerance but as their player has issued an apology everything is ok. I do not consider how long ago the tweets were made to be relevant, indeed the FA didn't when it was Andre Gray. Isn't this the club who fully supported Bong in his "racist" complaint against Rodriguez and then complained that Burnley fans booed their player. Perhaps Gareth Thomas may like to contribute to this discussion
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Horsham 23 May 18 4.40pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Oh my God, he called him a "thing". Oh my God!! Let's ban him!!!

God, I hate these feminists, LGBTs and black people who victimise themselves. Nobody can be loved by everyone, get over it! I've had slurs at me because I was fat and I didn't get any defence on social media and nobody was banned for calling me "fat" all my childhood.

Not a very helpful reply but the double standards of Brighton are unbelievable. They have been "bleating" on for years about the homophobic chants they endure, the club allegedly have a zero tolerance but as their player has issued an apology everything is ok. I do not consider how long ago the tweets were made to be relevant, indeed the FA didn't when it was Andre Gray. Isn't this the club who fully supported Bong in his "racist" complaint against Rodriguez and then complained that Burnley fans booed their player.
Perhaps Gareth Thomas may like to contribute to this discussion

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Spiderman Horsham 23 May 18 4.44pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players. I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different What would they do if he made them now? Maybe the club's approach is sensible but please explain the difference between this and Andre Gray. The only difference I can see is that their CEO has very close friends within the heirarchy of the FA
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Horsham 23 May 18 4.44pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players.

I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different

What would they do if he made them now? Maybe the club's approach is sensible but please explain the difference between this and Andre Gray. The only difference I can see is that their CEO has very close friends within the heirarchy of the FA

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Midlands Eagle 23 May 18 5.04pm
Originally posted by Spiderman What would they do if he made them now? How the hell do I know but they would obviously do something as the offence would have been committed by one of their players whilst he was at their club
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Midlands Eagle

23 May 18 5.04pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

What would they do if he made them now?

How the hell do I know but they would obviously do something as the offence would have been committed by one of their players whilst he was at their club

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Stuk Top half 23 May 18 5.14pm
Originally posted by Spiderman What would they do if he made them now? Maybe the club's approach is sensible but please explain the difference between this and Andre Gray. The only difference I can see is that their CEO has very close friends within the heirarchy of the FA Say Jay Rodriguez hacked his phone. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 23 May 18 5.14pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

What would they do if he made them now? Maybe the club's approach is sensible but please explain the difference between this and Andre Gray. The only difference I can see is that their CEO has very close friends within the heirarchy of the FA

Say Jay Rodriguez hacked his phone.

Optimistic as ever

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 May 18 5.28pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players. I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different What do you reckon they would do if they were presented with video evidence of an away fan 4 or 5 years ago hurling homophobic insults at Brighton fans/players during a game at the Amex? Forgive and forget as it was a few years ago?
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Sydenham 23 May 18 5.28pm

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

NO. They are taking a sensible attitude because the offence happened six years ago when he wasn't one of their players.

I have no doubt that if a player made a homophobic tweet now their reaction would be very different

What do you reckon they would do if they were presented with video evidence of an away fan 4 or 5 years ago hurling homophobic insults at Brighton fans/players during a game at the Amex? Forgive and forget as it was a few years ago?

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mattteo 23 May 18 5.29pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Duffy clearly in the wrong and Brighton clearly two-faced on this issue. Shame on them both. You're making too big of a deal. People can't even speak their minds anymore. This is worse than in nazi or communist societies. Everybody should have the God-given right to tell someone else he's a "thing". He didn't hit or injure the man in any way.
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23 May 18 5.29pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Duffy clearly in the wrong and Brighton clearly two-faced on this issue. Shame on them both.

You're making too big of a deal. People can't even speak their minds anymore. This is worse than in nazi or communist societies.

Everybody should have the God-given right to tell someone else he's a "thing". He didn't hit or injure the man in any way.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 May 18 5.54pm
Originally posted by mattteo You're making too big of a deal. People can't even speak their minds anymore. This is worse than in nazi or communist societies. Everybody should have the God-given right to tell someone else he's a "thing". He didn't hit or injure the man in any way. You're misunderstanding the concept of free speech. You can't claim a lack of free speech because it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments. Everyone should have the right to be free from discrimination or abuse based on their sexuality, gender or skin colour.
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CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 23 May 18 5.54pm

Originally posted by mattteo

You're making too big of a deal. People can't even speak their minds anymore. This is worse than in nazi or communist societies.

Everybody should have the God-given right to tell someone else he's a "thing". He didn't hit or injure the man in any way.

You're misunderstanding the concept of free speech. You can't claim a lack of free speech because it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments.

Everyone should have the right to be free from discrimination or abuse based on their sexuality, gender or skin colour.

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Stirlingsays 23 May 18 6.43pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle You're misunderstanding the concept of free speech. You can't claim a lack of free speech because it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments. Everyone should have the right to be free from discrimination or abuse based on their sexuality, gender or skin colour. No, you only represent one side of our free speech laws....it isn't the whole story or lay of the land at all. We have laws that both protect free speech and seek to punish it. The law is quite contradictory on this matter and the Police carefully interprets the law and pick their battles. Something they tend to do often not on a wholly ethical basis. For example, they will go after some young girl reposting rap lyrics on Facebook (lyrics that were sung out at a concert in the capital) but then they won't touch say Katie Hopkins. The reason is one can afford a good lawyer and a legal battle and the other can't. They won't touch her and risk losing precisely because the law is highly subjective and faces two ways. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2018 8.12pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 May 18 6.43pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You're misunderstanding the concept of free speech. You can't claim a lack of free speech because it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments.

Everyone should have the right to be free from discrimination or abuse based on their sexuality, gender or skin colour.

No, you only represent one side of our free speech laws....it isn't the whole story or lay of the land at all.

We have laws that both protect free speech and seek to punish it. The law is quite contradictory on this matter and the Police carefully interprets the law and pick their battles.

Something they tend to do often not on a wholly ethical basis. For example, they will go after some young girl reposting rap lyrics on Facebook (lyrics that were sung out at a concert in the capital) but then they won't touch say Katie Hopkins.

The reason is one can afford a good lawyer and a legal battle and the other can't. They won't touch her and risk losing precisely because the law is highly subjective and faces two ways.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2018 8.12pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stuk Top half 24 May 18 12.13pm
And another, Knockaert, has been in court for doing 110mph on the A27. 9 points and a £20K fine. [Link] Optimistic as ever
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Top half 24 May 18 12.13pm

And another, Knockaert, has been in court for doing 110mph on the A27.

9 points and a £20K fine.

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Optimistic as ever

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 May 18 1.37pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays No, you only represent one side of our free speech laws....it isn't the whole story or lay of the land at all. We have laws that both protect free speech and seek to punish it. The law is quite contradictory on this matter and the Police carefully interprets the law and pick their battles. Something they tend to do often not on a wholly ethical basis. For example, they will go after some young girl reposting rap lyrics on Facebook (lyrics that were sung out at a concert in the capital) but then they won't touch say Katie Hopkins. The reason is one can afford a good lawyer and a legal battle and the other can't. They won't touch her and risk losing precisely because the law is highly subjective and faces two ways. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2018 8.12pm) So you think free speech is impeded as it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments? I was pointing out that people calling someone out for making such comments are not attacking free speech.
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CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 24 May 18 1.37pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No, you only represent one side of our free speech laws....it isn't the whole story or lay of the land at all.

We have laws that both protect free speech and seek to punish it. The law is quite contradictory on this matter and the Police carefully interprets the law and pick their battles.

The reason is one can afford a good lawyer and a legal battle and the other can't. They won't touch her and risk losing precisely because the law is highly subjective and faces two ways.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2018 8.12pm)

So you think free speech is impeded as it's socially unacceptable to make racist/sexist/homophobic comments?

I was pointing out that people calling someone out for making such comments are not attacking free speech.

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