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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 19 Aug 18 5.31pm

Looks like this will be made.

Would have given Fury a chance of outboxing him three years however I believe Fury is currently a year and three more fights away from being back to his best.

Good to see top fighters facing each other though.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Aug 18 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Fury just went ten rounds with a guy Kevin Johnson knocked out in seven last year.......Johnson has been washed up for five years now.

It was truly awful.....not for a second comeback fight after being out of the ring with drug and weight issues....in that sense it was ok......but it was truly awful as a fight preparing for Wilder in three frigging months time.

Slow footwork and feather punches.....the guy had no trouble closing him down.

He only had to come back and train for half a year to start earning millions........I can only think Fury is 'cashing out' and he's taking all his fans for mugs.

They stick bank robbers in jail.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2018 5.54pm)

 


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The last glory days of British boxing was in the 1990's. Britain dominated the middleweight division, and everyone fought everyone.
Fury looked a spent force, largely treading water.
Glad his mental state seems to be much better.
Can't help but feel fans are being enticed to fund their gravy train.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 19 Aug 18 6.33pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The last glory days of British boxing was in the 1990's. Britain dominated the middleweight division, and everyone fought everyone.
Fury looked a spent force, largely treading water.
Glad his mental state seems to be much better.
Can't help but feel fans are being enticed to fund their gravy train.

Britain has never dominated boxing.

 

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The last glory days of British boxing was in the 1990's. Britain dominated the middleweight division, and everyone fought everyone.
Fury looked a spent force, largely treading water.
Glad his mental state seems to be much better.
Can't help but feel fans are being enticed to fund their gravy train.

No we didn't, they all shamelessly ducked James Tony.

No one wanted a taste of Roy Jones Jr at super either.....and no one wanted a taste of Mike McCallum after he beat Watson, Collins and Graham.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2018 6.49pm)

 


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UK currently has lots of good fighters.

I can tell some in here do not understand boxing just typical fans who think they know about the sport.

Fury looked very good lots of movement controlled the fight.

really looking forward to this next fight

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 19 Aug 18 9.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No we didn't, they all shamelessly ducked James Tony.

No one wanted a taste of Roy Jones Jr at super either.....and no one wanted a taste of Mike McCallum after he beat Watson, Collins and Graham.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2018 6.49pm)[/quot

I don't think the British Middle/Super middle weights from the ninties shamelessly ducked anyone.

Their promoters may have but not the fighters so to call it shameless is boll@x and completely disrespectful.

Benn got in the ring with Gerald Mcclellan, a fighter who's punch power was greater than both Tony and Jones. A fighter who now suffers from brain damage.

Watson also suffers from permanent brain damage.

These guys were tough warriors who's fighting prowess has never been in question so its funny that you, a keyboard warrior chooses to do so.


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Keyboard warrior? Oh yeah....I'm being really aggressive.

Ducking a fight is not being scared of a fighter. Very few fighters actually fear the physicality of a beating.

There is a video clip of James Toney calling out both Eubank and Benn on live TV and neither of them took him up...they were there live. You don't take on fights you don't feel you can win unless it makes financial sense. It's not about being tough...which they are automatically....it's about not being stupid and taking the fights that make sense at the time.

Excuse me Tom, but you can't tell me nothing about British boxing history from the middleweights up from the nineties. So thanks for the history lesson but I was in my twenties during that time and you aren't telling me nothing.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No we didn't, they all shamelessly ducked James Tony.

No one wanted a taste of Roy Jones Jr at super either.....and no one wanted a taste of Mike McCallum after he beat Watson, Collins and Graham.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2018 6.49pm)

I have to agree with this. There were some great British fights but people forget that Frank Warren often served up "bum of the week" look at many of Eubank's fights. Every great fighter has a few easy ones but Stirling is correct there were bigger fights out there that are guys didn't take.

 


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Boxing is about money.
Fury has had only two fights after a long lay off and will probably have to knock Wilder out in America to win.
I think he knows all this but sees an opportunity to make some quick money.
Wilder obviously doesn't want to come to Britain to fight Joshua so this is the next best thing for him.

 

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Sadly i didn't manage to catch the fight, so cant comment on how Fury progressed from his last one which was truly awful.

What I would say is that he looks to have continued shifting the weight since that last outing and going the distance...even if against a poor opponent wouldnt have hurt him either.

As for Wilder...sue he'll go into it as the underdog, but what I would say is that Wilder would overlook Fury's superior nouse and ability at his peril.

On the face of things if Wilder doesn't put Fury away within 5 rounds he'll lose a lot of credibility...and personally i think that plays into Fury's hands with his spoiling tactics and superior boxing ability. That and the fact he'll be another 3months of training fitter could make this very interesting.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

UK currently has lots of good fighters.

I can tell some in here do not understand boxing just typical fans who think they know about the sport.

Fury looked very good lots of movement controlled the fight.

really looking forward to this next fight

Apart from Lennox Lewis name me one British fighter in history who has been universally regarded as the best in his division. We do okay in terms of our countries size and support of the sport but we've never had one fighter dominate apart from Lewis. Calzaghe is probably our best ever fighter but wouldn't have touched roy Jones if he decided to not jump through the weights.

 

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