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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Dec 18 11.43am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money.

I'm guessing that all three of these guys will fight each other and probably more than once.
It has been rare in recent heavyweight boxing to have such big money making opportunities and I'm sure they will milk them dry.
The limiting factor for Wilder is that the biggest payday would come in England where he will be at a disadvantage. If anyone didn't know already, no one is going to the States and taking their golden goose unless he is carried out on a stretcher. AJ is totally right not to go there. Unlike Fury, he has no point to prove and can make good money here. Wilder needs to take that risk or he will continue to fight nobodies for a much smaller purse.

 

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View black eagle.'s Profile black eagle. Flag south croydon. 04 Dec 18 1.21pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up.

AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April.

Interestingly AJ is in America right now.

Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight?

If that's the case Fury should fight the winner.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 04 Dec 18 2.01pm

Originally posted by black eagle.

AJ congratulated Fury on his fight with Wilder,but thinks Wilder only fought him because he thought Fury was washed up.

AJ also said he'll fight either Wilder or fury in April.

Interestingly AJ is in America right now.

Wonder if he is on holiday or in negotiations for the Wilder fight?

If that's the case Fury should fight the winner.

I think the likelihood is a Wilder Fury rematch and AJ will fight a mandatory challenger in April

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 05 Dec 18 10.20am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

If I was wilder I would be chasing straight after Joshua now, wilder will knock Joshua clean out. Joshua has improved very little as a pro, next to no movement, no jab at all, a heavier puncher than fury but if wilder can land on fury who's 6'9 and one of the most awkward boxers to hit then I can't see him not landing on Joshua plus Joshua will be even more petrified of his power now. tho he does know his way around the ring but it would have to be such a disciplined performance on Joshuas part I just can't see him not getting caught.

I think it works for all three to let wilder and Joshua fight. They've got all the belts between them and need to cash in asap with fury back in the mix. It gives fury another couple of fights to get rid of the ring rust and if wilder annihilates Joshua then I don't think they would call straight for the rematch so furys rematch with wilder could potentially be for all the belts.

Exciting times tho and we could end up having an equivalent to the fab four of the 80's in the heavyweight division with all three having a good shout of beating the other 2 and all fighting each other more than once.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 05 Dec 18 1.13pm

Originally posted by rikz

If I was wilder I would be chasing straight after Joshua now, wilder will knock Joshua clean out. Joshua has improved very little as a pro, next to no movement, no jab at all, a heavier puncher than fury but if wilder can land on fury who's 6'9 and one of the most awkward boxers to hit then I can't see him not landing on Joshua plus Joshua will be even more petrified of his power now. tho he does know his way around the ring but it would have to be such a disciplined performance on Joshuas part I just can't see him not getting caught.

I think it works for all three to let wilder and Joshua fight. They've got all the belts between them and need to cash in asap with fury back in the mix. It gives fury another couple of fights to get rid of the ring rust and if wilder annihilates Joshua then I don't think they would call straight for the rematch so furys rematch with wilder could potentially be for all the belts.

Exciting times tho and we could end up having an equivalent to the fab four of the 80's in the heavyweight division with all three having a good shout of beating the other 2 and all fighting each other more than once.

Nonsense, Fury got up twice and if it weren't for a homer judge he wouldn't even have a belt

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Nonsense, Fury got up twice and if it weren't for a homer judge he wouldn't even have a belt

And fury is technically on a completely different level to Joshua. Wilder is completely wrong from him and there's no way Joshua is capable of the level of performance fury is. I'd actually give Joshua a much better chance of beating fury than I would wilder.

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 05 Dec 18 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

And fury is technically on a completely different level to Joshua. Wilder is completely wrong from him and there's no way Joshua is capable of the level of performance fury is. I'd actually give Joshua a much better chance of beating fury than I would wilder.

Not for me. I think AJ beats them both. I agree that he, like anyone , would need to stay away from Wilders hayemaker. But Joshua , unlike fury, would also bother Wilder with his heavy hands. Let’s have it right, Ortiz was close to putting Wilder away.
Joshua has a stiff jab, unlike fury’s flicking jab, that would wear Wilder down, if AJ had Fury on the deck like Wilder did , I think he would finish him.

. Throw Usyk in the mix aswell and there’s good fights ahead

 

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Originally posted by Casual

Not for me. I think AJ beats them both. I agree that he, like anyone , would need to stay away from Wilders hayemaker. But Joshua , unlike fury, would also bother Wilder with his heavy hands. Let’s have it right, Ortiz was close to putting Wilder away.
Joshua has a stiff jab, unlike fury’s flicking jab, that would wear Wilder down, if AJ had Fury on the deck like Wilder did , I think he would finish him.

. Throw Usyk in the mix aswell and there’s good fights ahead


Good post Casual,I totally agree about AJ finishing off Fury had he got up.

I think Wilder sometimes leaves himself wide open and could be caught on the counter.

Usyk did a good job on Bellew.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 06 Dec 18 11.18am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Usyk is about as big a threat as povetkin and whyte, his stepped up to make a bit of money. You got AJ who's 6'6 and 18 stone and a fairly good all rounder, wilder is 6'7 15 stone and has dynamite in both hands and fury 6'9 18 stone and by far the most intelligent and just has great general ring craft. I'm really not interested in them fighting other fighters apart from each other. Pulev, Miller, ortiz will have a go but all three would be massive underdogs. If fury, wilder and Joshua all fight a couple of times I'd be surprised afterwards if fury didn't have the best head to head.

 

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Originally posted by rikz

Usyk is about as big a threat as povetkin and whyte, his stepped up to make a bit of money. You got AJ who's 6'6 and 18 stone and a fairly good all rounder, wilder is 6'7 15 stone and has dynamite in both hands and fury 6'9 18 stone and by far the most intelligent and just has great general ring craft. I'm really not interested in them fighting other fighters apart from each other. Pulev, Miller, ortiz will have a go but all three would be massive underdogs. If fury, wilder and Joshua all fight a couple of times I'd be surprised afterwards if fury didn't have the best head to head.

Usyk is 6 ft 3 and by far the best boxer, although he’s not strong enough to stop any of them , but I bet he punches as hard as fury and is elusive.
Pulev isn’t good enough.
I’d beat miller Left handed.
Ortiz is 74.
Parker doesn’t start throwing his hands until the last 30seconds in the 12th.
Brazealle, Martin etc are all two Bob.
Hughie fury isn’t good enough.
Dubois/ Gorman are too raw, and a few years away, if they ever get there.
Joyce really isn’t very good, too slow and trying to be fast tracked due to his age.
Poverkin has been decent, but coming down the hill, rather than going up it.
Whyte is a level below them 3, but could trouble them if he landed.
As could Chisora , after what he did to Takkam , but is knocking on now and would be there for the money only.
For me it’s the 3 of them and Usyk , possibly after a couple of fights with lesser heavyweights.

Good fights coming though.
AJ for me.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 07 Dec 18 7.05pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

I think for once in a long time that boxing fans are genuinely gonna win, there's so much money to be made from all three fighting each other that I can't see the fights not happening. All three are now massive names in the sporting world not just boxing world. Will be an exciting couple of years in the heavyweight division.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Dec 18 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Noises from the Warren camp that AJ will be fighting a wild card in AJ’s booker date at Wembley. So Fury v Wilder first it’ll be then. If AJ beats that winner I’d like to see him fight the loser after as well, but you know he won’t. His camp will probably delay the fight vs the winner for a while anyway. There should be more blatant calling out of this ducking to maximise guaranteed earnings bollox.

 


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