You really don’t have female friends do you? Just wow.

Please rest assured that I read your previous posts assiduously, including where you assert that Dan is effeminate due to having female friends

Also that women appear only to talk about 'gossip, who she's dating, her period cycle, her leg-shaving tips, the newest Kardashian episode'.

I wonder how you know this, given you don't have any female friends other than in groups where - apparently - those topics don't come up.

That reddit post was actually by someone else and I copied and pasted it here. I don’t actually think, believe or agree with that part but they do like to gossip a serious amount (sometimes get more sexually explicit in talking) and sometimes can talk about their feelings to the point where it’s probably exhausting for men. It’s a good that they do, but no need to obsess over feelings.

I bet if you ask people if they have a platonic friend of the opposite sex they’d ring up on the spur of the moment for a drink they haven’t got one. It would have to be planned, like an acquaintance.

I didn’t assert Dan was effeminate due to having female friends. I just said ‘effeminate male has female friends who are his best friends.’ Slight difference.

Anyway, most men hanging around one particular female on a regular basis wants to get into her pants. It may not be so in younger people but it would become more and more odd as the female gets a partner and he is still hanging around, which is where the point really was in the first place. The female would be nowhere to be found usually as she bins off the hang on ow she has the boyfriend she wants.

Didn’t you say you fell into the friend zone in the past? I can’t remember who it was tbh.

What you’ve said can be true but is quite a generalisation as well. Because a man has male friends it doesn’t necessarily make him uncomfortable or needy but I think I know what you mean. However, I’ve also seen Klingon friend zoned males who even more needy. (In spiritual yoga there is a focus and healthier objective for a man to cut ties with his mother and partner so that he is less in need and reliant on her. Man needs a woman. He is still attached to the mother)

I’ve had the benefits before the ‘friends.’

You’ve described your younger years, not your current years.

Do you agree that there can be issues with having an opposite sex friend you spend a lot of time with, one on one, without your partner? It would be a bit odd or suspicious if a married person found an opposite sex friend they were spending so much time with away from their opposite sex partner.

Dan was a student. I think he is virtually married after moving to Chelmsford near his girlfriend’s family or something.

You haven’t read my points. Female friends, yes, who’ve been in groups within groups etc, but not the kind that I’d now ring up and ask if they want to go out for a few pints later, no.

If you’re effeminate then you probably need females for friends and you fit in with the girls or a girl so it’ll work more.

It can create all sorts of issues this thing, when one or both of these platonic relationships are married or similar. If you think it doesn’t then you’re pretending or lying. By that I mean Platonic relationships you start when you’re married or similar, unless the platonic man friend is effeminate or of no threat or the woman a pig.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2019 8.18am)