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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Jan 20 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The Trump thing has again brought this farcical moral dilemma to my mind.
Whistle-blowers can kiss goodbye to their careers, when they expose corrupt institutional behaviour.

There are numerous similar examples in industry (Grenfell being another), where potential criminal behaviour is suppressed.

And in fact the 'grass' who alerts people to these misdemeanours is pilloried more than the b'stards who did the deed.

General thoughts and examples ?

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Jan 20 8.29pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The Trump thing has again brought this farcical moral dilemma to my mind.
Whistle-blowers can kiss goodbye to their careers, when they expose corrupt institutional behaviour.

There are numerous similar examples in industry (Grenfell being another), where potential criminal behaviour is suppressed.

And in fact the 'grass' who alerts people to these misdemeanours is pilloried more than the b'stards who did the deed.

General thoughts and examples ?

Once you make it legal you are innocent until proven guilty in the uk.
(Grenfell)
No story there , yet anyhow.
Supposition and guess work ATM.
Unless your looking for a scapegoat obviously.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Jan 20 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

If I saw my mum being raped by a neighbour,..for example,...and I went to the police, would that be justified as 'being a grass' ?

Am just interested in peoples 'threshold values', and moral judgement, as opposed to legal arguments

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (31 Jan 2020 8.38pm)

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 31 Jan 20 9.13pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

It seems to me that you are only a grass if you "dob in" one of your own. Whether 'one of your own' is family, friends, peers etc., is the question.

Anyone else *ought* to be fair game.

The level of offence is also relevant. Murder, rape, kiddie stuff, all fair game. Stealing food from Tesco? You grassed. "They can afford it, feck 'em".

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Jan 20 11.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

well if you lived in Rotherham, would you bother reporting a rape to the cops ?

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Feb 20 12.05am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Definition of whistle blowing is for the public good.

Americans struggle with the concept which is well embedded across Europe. Oh, and the UK.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Feb 20 4.57am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

It seems to me that you are only a grass if you "dob in" one of your own. Whether 'one of your own' is family, friends, peers etc., is the question.

Anyone else *ought* to be fair game.

The level of offence is also relevant. Murder, rape, kiddie stuff, all fair game. Stealing food from Tesco? You grassed. "They can afford it, feck 'em".

Pretty much spot on.

I'd also add that if you sign a contract and take the King's coin then that also adds to it....up to a point....and those points will be set at different places depending upon that personality.

 


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