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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 08 May 20 7.10pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

I see three scenarios and none of those involve finishing the Season.

1) Eventually due to ongoing and insurmountable issues they take the sensible decision and the season is abandoned...null and void with no title and no relegations.

2) A decision is made not to restart the season however Liverpool are awarded the title and other positions are decided on a points per game basis.

3) They attempt to restart the season and get a game or two played before a player (or players) test COVID positive and the season comes to an abrupt halt again, whereby (so long as Liverpool have by then mathematically clinched the title) the season will be drawn to a close and the remainder of positions decided by points per game.

(With lots of legal action to follow in all three scenarios)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 7.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Spare a thought for Macclesfield fans they have just been given their second points deduction of the season. The first of many clubs to be in real trouble I fear.

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These issues were before the stoppage though but yes many will be up the creek without one.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 09 May 20 5.06pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Finishing the PL season (although money-driven), always looked a bit dodgy on the public health issues.

It can only be a matter of time before the outcomes of discussions with clubs and the EPL are made public, and a mathematical resolution is agreed to league placement. End of season must be announced before another ball is kicked.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 09 May 20 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

And when the PL decision is announced, the outcome must be replicated throughout the leagues and non-leagues,..is my opinion

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 May 20 4.00am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

In light of Dynamo Dresden it must be delayed or written off. Seems to me football struggles with decisions. Always has.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 May 20 7.05am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

And when the PL decision is announced, the outcome must be replicated throughout the leagues and non-leagues,..is my opinion

Unfortunately I think you are correct, unfortunately because the PL will go it's merry way without bothering to think what the impact will be on the EFL.

What's good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander.

 


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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 10 May 20 9.49am Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

The non league has been cancelled already I think and League 1/2 don't think they can play behind Closed doors?

Typically unlike in Germany it's all disorganised and no one can agree on how to work it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 May 20 10.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Superhorns3

The non league has been cancelled already I think and League 1/2 don't think they can play behind Closed doors?

Typically unlike in Germany it's all disorganised and no one can agree on how to work it.

Agreed the PL is not thinking about the good of the game and I suspect some would be more than happy if the EFL was too diminish as they begrudge giving them TV money and would prefer a no relegation competition.

If the PL decides that there will be no relegation this season it's a domino effect my guess is that the EFL will be forced to do the same.

And of course you have to ask the obvious question where is the FA in all of this. The reality is that football in this country will be decided by 16 PL clubs who couldn't care less about the lower leagues meanwhile the so called body responsible for the game is powerless. The FA is not fit for purpose.

Edited by Badger11 (10 May 2020 10.04am)

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 May 20 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

A third Brighton player tests positive for CV19

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"A third Brighton player has tested positive for coronavirus.

The unnamed player, who will now self isolate for 14 days, was tested on Saturday - two other players tested positive earlier in the pandemic.

Brighton players have been training individually at the training ground and the club say this will be allowed to continue.

Premier League clubs are due to meet on Monday for more discussions about their proposed Project Restart plan." (BBC website)

It's an absolute farce. People's lives are (potentially) going to put at risk,...for football.

Does 'common sense' really need to be voted on ? I hope the results of Monday's vote are made public.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 May 20 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed the PL is not thinking about the good of the game and I suspect some would be more than happy if the EFL was too diminish as they begrudge giving them TV money and would prefer a no relegation competition.

If the PL decides that there will be no relegation this season it's a domino effect my guess is that the EFL will be forced to do the same.

And of course you have to ask the obvious question where is the FA in all of this. The reality is that football in this country will be decided by 16 PL clubs who couldn't care less about the lower leagues meanwhile the so called body responsible for the game is powerless. The FA is not fit for purpose.

Edited by Badger11 (10 May 2020 10.04am)

The FA (much like the FIA governing body of Formula 1) are now seeing that they have very little say when sponsorship commitments and finance/contractual obligations are at stake

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 May 20 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

The FA (much like the FIA governing body of Formula 1) are now seeing that they have very little say when sponsorship commitments and finance/contractual obligations are at stake

On more than one occasion the government of the day has told the FA to reform itself or face being taken over. It is supposed to be the governing authority of football and yet it allows the PL and to a lesser extent the PFA to decide the big decisions.

I would hope that the Sports Minister will carry out the threat and appoint a new governing body. This will be problematic short term as the new FA will be expelled from FIFA but given time it will work out. As for the PL and the big boys they have the right to withdraw from sanction football and do a Kerry Packer but if they do I suspect the rest of us will say good riddance.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 May 20 1.47pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

And Steve Parish slightly back-tracking on what he said the other day , about 'we can finish the season'.

errr, actually, maybe we can't.

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"Crystal Palace chairman Steve Parish says that unless Premier League clubs can find a way to stage matches soon, it may be a “very, very extended period” before the top flight returns.

Speaking on BBC One’s Andrew Marr Show, Parish said that initial plans for league matches to be staged again from June may prove unfeasible.

“We would be derelict in our duty if we didn’t find a way to try and bring the game back,” he said.

It may prove beyond us.” (BBC wesite)

No 5hlt, Sherlock

 


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