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“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Maybe, all of them 15th century.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

I'm not sure what spiritual means in the real world.
Something either is, or it isn't. Anything real has an explanation and can be proven with scientific evidence.

There might well be realms that we are not fully aware of, but they will be as real as anything else.
To describe them as spiritual suggests superstition.

As for the Shroud. Tests done on it suggest a medieval fake.
Those that like to cling on to 'faith' will believe what ever they like irrespective of evidence.
The very idea that Jesus was resurrected is quite ridiculous and was a later add on to the original account of his death.
The Catholic Church is awash with items that are proported to be related to similar miracles. It's all religious mumbo jumbo.

If you go down that road, then you can convince yourself of anything.

I think we are two book ends, i believe ghosts, demons, ufos even Edouard is a class player, sorry, gone too far

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Clearly many of the visitors and ETs act clandestinely and so, have an agenda that is troubling.

Far and away the best intelligence we have been able to build on ETs comes from military and private remote viewers (those who use psychic functioning to penetrate the UFO craft and bases of the aliens). One of the best on these is a guy who worked in the US remote viewing program, Lyn Buchanan. He says some ETS are friendly and others are not and want us humans wiped out as we could cause trouble if we move out into space [Link]

Fascinating stuff.

Be where you are; otherwise you will miss your life.

Are there other lifeforms in the universe? Probably.
If they have the technology and inclination to come here would they bother? Doubtful. Even accepting the possibility of wormholes and such it's still a vast distance to travel. It's been said that searching for life on other planets would be like going from here to Australia to find a single grain of sand.
If they did get here you'd think they might do more than fly around a field in Kansas before nipping off again without leaving any evidence.