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View redshift's Profile redshift Flag Toronto 23 Jan 22 4.18pm Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

It's much harder to deny favouritism towards certain players as it is towards big teams.

Then there was Clattenburg who just straight up fancied himself as one of the elites, rubbing shoulders with legends and driving sporty cars.

Webb was the same. Remember the FA cup final where he's coming on with ManU and spends the pre match over at their bench high fiving his buddies with Pardew watching with a WTF look on his face.

 


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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 23 Jan 22 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Merseyside Fishermen's Friend.

Kevin Friend

Very worrying that was seen as a penalty today. Across the internet , people know it was not a penalty. Yet two officials decided it was. So what goes on.?
Referees in the premier league have to be better than this. It’s so bad , for the first time in a long life of football I’m prepared to consider the idea that refereeing is no longer totally honest. Certainly at this big money level.

 

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View iheartcpfc's Profile iheartcpfc Flag SE25 23 Jan 22 5.00pm Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

There is no point in playing Liverpool. Every ref is 6 miles up their arse and give them absolutely everything. That Harold Shipman c*** managing them probably hands the grasses the brown envelopes himself before every game

Football is fixed.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Jan 22 5.09pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by iheartcpfc

That Harold Shipman c**t managing them probably hands the grasses the brown envelopes himself before every game

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Jan 2022 5.21pm)

 


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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 23 Jan 22 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Our boys were in it today deep into the game and with a bit more luck/guile up front would have been at worst level.
Then the predictable 'refereeing' influence takes over, sucking out the spirit. Every week games are wrecked by moments like this and every week Kevin Friend 'to the big clubs' and all the other incompetents, Dean, Moss, Pawson etc carry on 'refereeing' without any explanation of their decisions or being taken to task and probably worse nothing is ever done over their barely-disguised leanings to the bigger club.
It has always been like this in the Premier league but the administrators always bottle it over the big clubs, particularly as they have already threatened to walk once and the Premier league was set up for the benefit of the big clubs.
You either swallow it or as a previous poster wrote, write off certain games.

 

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waddy Flag Highton,Melbourne 23 Jan 22 6.17pm

Today against Liverpool ref was not good the Pen was not a Pen.The time wasting was obvious - Yet we lose the game not the Ref

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Jan 22 10.38pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Swindy

It has always been like this in the Premier league but the administrators always bottle it over the big clubs, particularly as they have already threatened to walk once and the Premier league was set up for the benefit of the big clubs.
You either swallow it or as a previous poster wrote, write off certain games.

so do we play our B team, whenever up against the big fish of the top Four ? And keep the A team fresh ? to crucify all the smaller clubs ?

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 24 Jan 22 8.52am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

This season players have been simulating contact to win penalties like nobody's business and they need to clamp down on it. Players are literally dangling a foot behind the ball just as defenders are about to clear the ball in order to win a pen (AWB and Andros have both fallen victim to this for their respective clubs as have others). Yesterday Jota's 'cleverness' should have earned him a yellow for simulation. Although the decision was wrong no-one seems to be giving Jota a hard time for cheating. Let's face it, if that was Zaha he would have been crucified by the media.

Are refs intentionally biased? My feeling when calm is probably not. Are they subconsciously influenced by the force of personality of players from bigger clubs and the attention they'll receive if they go against a big club? I would say probably yes in some cases. Nevertheless, corruption is rife in all walks of life and so if we can't trust our governments, our police, or any other more serious instrument of society, can we truly be confident there is not corruption in the game? Of course not.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Jan 22 9.10am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I don't think that Referees are intentionally bias but I do think at the back of their mind is the concern that if they don't give a marginal decision in favour of a big team there will be sh*t storm from that club, fans and the meeja.

I remember an article which pointed out certain referees had tangled with Sir Alex or other big team managers and they had not since ref'd them so definitely big team influence.

I wonder if they still goes on today certainly not at Palace they seem to delight in giving us a controversial ref.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Jan 22 9.14am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

This season players have been simulating contact to win penalties like nobody's business and they need to clamp down on it. Players are literally dangling a foot behind the ball just as defenders are about to clear the ball in order to win a pen (AWB and Andros have both fallen victim to this for their respective clubs as have others). Yesterday Jota's 'cleverness' should have earned him a yellow for simulation. Although the decision was wrong no-one seems to be giving Jota a hard time for cheating. Let's face it, if that was Zaha he would have been crucified by the media.

Are refs intentionally biased? My feeling when calm is probably not. Are they subconsciously influenced by the force of personality of players from bigger clubs and the attention they'll receive if they go against a big club? I would say probably yes in some cases. Nevertheless, corruption is rife in all walks of life and so if we can't trust our governments, our police, or any other more serious instrument of society, can we truly be confident there is not corruption in the game? Of course not.

I agree, I don't think that referees are intentionally biased. As for corrupt, well they could be, but instinctively I don't think they are.

If we move on to competency, that's another matter. And in my view, where the Premier League is seriously lacking.

VAR being administrated by the same incompetents that officiate at games....is it any wonder that even with the technology available to them, they are still inconsistent in their application of the laws ?!

The performance of the three match officials plus Pawson on VAR yesterday highlighted everything that is currently wrong with EPL officiating.

I know what a hard job they have. I know they are only human and that mistakes will be made. But most referees in the EPL are not of the sufficiently high standard that is required. And that is reflected in the number invited to officiate at Euros/ World Cup.

The Premier League need to recognise and own this problem.

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 24 Jan 22 9.47am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I agree, I don't think that referees are intentionally biased. As for corrupt, well they could be, but instinctively I don't think they are.

If we move on to competency, that's another matter. And in my view, where the Premier League is seriously lacking.

VAR being administrated by the same incompetents that officiate at games....is it any wonder that even with the technology available to them, they are still inconsistent in their application of the laws ?!

The performance of the three match officials plus Pawson on VAR yesterday highlighted everything that is currently wrong with EPL officiating.

I know what a hard job they have. I know they are only human and that mistakes will be made. But most referees in the EPL are not of the sufficiently high standard that is required. And that is reflected in the number invited to officiate at Euros/ World Cup.

The Premier League need to recognise and own this problem.

There have been a lot of games across the PL this season with some very odd decisions, with this affecting most teams both big and small. I get the ref makes mistakes, but how does VAR make so many?

I do also think there is a disconnect between what happens in the box and what happens outside of it. This season (rightly so in my view) refs have been letting things go and are not stopping the game every time a player gets some contact, but if anything, when it comes to the 18-yard box they've become even more stringent. This of course has not been helped by VAR micro analysing some decisions and ignoring others. Consistency being the other issue of course and the fact we are seeing VAR take 5 minutes to decide if something is 'clear and obvious', which seems a contradiction in terms.

The one thing I'd really love to see go is the pitch side monitors. It basically seems they are being used to show the referee why they are wrong. I don't think I've seen one occasion this season where the ref has stuck to his original decision. Can you imagine having to go over to a monitor with a wall of faces glaring at you and players talking in one ear and VAR in the other. It's ridiculous and just seems to undermine the referee.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 24 Jan 22 9.52am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I actually wondered what would happen if after the penalty award we just said, right everybody off & took the team off in protest, for sure we would get castigated by the FA but would it be worth it ?

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

so do we play our B team, whenever up against the big fish of the top Four ? And keep the A team fresh ? to crucify all the smaller clubs ?

 

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