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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Mar 22 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

It's a question of proper cover for if/when Mitchell is injured. A number of people on this site have argued that we need a second LB. My own personal view is that in Schlupp and Riedewald we have adequate cover

Whilst Riedewald is probably good enough cover as a right back it's an interesting scenario where the cover earns considerably more than the first choice

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 02 Mar 22 5.12pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Sloppy performance, but we did what we needed to do. Stoke played well and can feel a bit hard done by. Would have been a different story if that ref had given that nailed on penalty early doors.

Best part about the game was” Adaramola “ he was terrific, really impressed with him. That’s the left back position well and truly sorted.

 

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 02 Mar 22 5.23pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I agree about Tayo; I actually thought he looked a lot more composed and ready than when Mitchell first played some games under Roy. That said, Mitchell's subsequent development has been amazing.

I also agree that the left back position is not one that needs attention. With Mitchell, Tayo and Schlupp/Riedewald it seems to be well stocked. It was not long ago that Riedewald was man of the match against Arsenal playing at left back. I remember being amazed at just how good his performance was on the night.

 

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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 02 Mar 22 5.36pm Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Hughes was massively to blame for the Stoke goal. He didn't bother to compete for the through ball that Sawyers picked up, then Sawyers passed him far too easily before putting in the cross from which Stoke scored. I was astonished by how casual he seemed as the threat from the right developed.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Mar 22 5.41pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Tayo, I'm afraid, is in the PVA tradition.

He is attacking I've even seen him pop up on the right wing for the U23s.

Defensively Palace's right flank is open, the LB is too far from the right winger and as we saw with Hughes last night, the cover is absent or too slow.

Tayo would be better for us up the field imo, otherwise he will have to develop the discipline necessary for the PL.

Good luck to him anyway.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 02 Mar 22 5.48pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tayo, I'm afraid, is in the PVA tradition.

He is attacking I've even seen him pop up on the right wing for the U23s.

Defensively Palace's right flank is open, the LB is too far from the right winger and as we saw with Hughes last night, the cover is absent or too slow.

Tayo would be better for us up the field imo, otherwise he will have to develop the discipline necessary for the PL.

Good luck to him anyway.

AWB started off as a winger then was converted to a right back. In my mind Tayo has a bright future and good luck to him.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 02 Mar 22 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I agree. I think we are all blinded by fond memories of Clyne. He looks ever more out of depth than Ward when getting forward and his passing is awful.

Last night he seemed reluctant to bomb forward when he could but seemed intent on playing the ball inside or slowing down the play. Young lad looked more wanting to move forward and had one good run down the line. Liked to of seen him as well in a more attacking way. Also thought Hughes didn't have a great game. Produced more fouls than tackles and his passing looked a bit rough at times. Overall the job was done, result over performance. Hoping for something better against Wolves at the weekend. COYP !!

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Mar 22 8.05pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I couldn't work out if we were more dangerous when we went more direct. When Stoke started to go very direct, it seemed to rattle us. At one stage, they seemed to have more in our final third than we did.
Just to some of the comments above -I thought Clyne grew into the game and started to look at least as good as Ward (I hesitate to say better). Our results with Clyne haven't been too bad. Glad to see Tayo - looked pretty good and will be ready pretty soon by the looks of it. He could be vying with Mitchell next season, which is great for us.
I certainly expect to see him play for Ireland. My guess is, in their next couple of matches or so.

 


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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 02 Mar 22 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by BM

Let’s not be in any doubt. That was a dreadful performance. We are so lucky to have these two superb CBs but they can’t keep holding us together when all around them is so dire. Wilf was dreadful, Mateta is clearly not up to it and the changes were woeful. What’s going on with Eddie and Eze? Why won’t the manager play them? Why isn’t Benteke getting more minutes? What was the strategy with Schlupp tonight? And of course as soon as Ward can walk he will be straight back in, which will weaken us. Worrying times.

Yup, have to say I can’t disagree with any of that, Wilf was particularly poor.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 03 Mar 22 4.07am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tayo, I'm afraid, is in the PVA tradition.

He is attacking I've even seen him pop up on the right wing for the U23s.

Defensively Palace's right flank is open, the LB is too far from the right winger and as we saw with Hughes last night, the cover is absent or too slow.

Tayo would be better for us up the field imo, otherwise he will have to develop the discipline necessary for the PL.

Good luck to him anyway.

Any possibility of playing Tayo A. on the right, Mitchell on the left? Then our back positions are settled for the next 4-5 years.


Edited by thai-eagle (03 Mar 2022 4.08am)

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 03 Mar 22 10.40am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I agree. I think we are all blinded by fond memories of Clyne. He looks ever more out of depth than Ward when getting forward and his passing is awful.

Yes, such a shame. I did wonder when people were calling for him instead of Ward what PV was seeing on the training pitch and now we now.

He's done ok, but looks uncomfortable in possession and the attacking overlap has disappeared.
Defensively he is no more than ok too. at one point in the 1st half Stoke threaded a ball inside for the winger to run onto and it beat him all ends up.

Still only 30, but i think 2 years of injuries have permanently taken their toll. A good squad player at best.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 03 Mar 22 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Yes, such a shame. I did wonder when people were calling for him instead of Ward what PV was seeing on the training pitch and now we now.

He's done ok, but looks uncomfortable in possession and the attacking overlap has disappeared.
Defensively he is no more than ok too. at one point in the 1st half Stoke threaded a ball inside for the winger to run onto and it beat him all ends up.

Still only 30, but i think 2 years of injuries have permanently taken their toll. A good squad player at best.

His greatest drawback is he is so so right-footed. If you look, it's the only one he ever uses. This limits hi passing options greatly.

 

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