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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Jan 23 6.18am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I’m only flagging this up and trying to be neutral, although my son has type 1
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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 23 7.47am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

If it works why not. As I understand it type 1 is not lifestyle related.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Jan 23 8.13am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If it works why not. As I understand it type 1 is not lifestyle related.

True.

Type 2 isn't always lifestyle related though. I developed type 2 some 15 years ago and I'm not overweight.

Unfortunately stuff like this and the Libre diabetes monitor will never be available on the NHS for type 2s despite the fact that I am insulin dependant and if I want to buy the monitor privately it will cost me £75 per fortnight so I will have to continue to monitor my blood sugar levels the old fashioned way by pricking my finger several times a day

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jan 23 8.23am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

True.

Type 2 isn't always lifestyle related though. I developed type 2 some 15 years ago and I'm not overweight.

Unfortunately stuff like this and the Libre diabetes monitor will never be available on the NHS for type 2s despite the fact that I am insulin dependant and if I want to buy the monitor privately it will cost me £75 per fortnight so I will have to continue to monitor my blood sugar levels the old fashioned way by pricking my finger several times a day

Sure but for many it is so there is an alternative the priority for now has to be type 1 with NHS money being tight.

 


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View Harborough Eagle's Profile Harborough Eagle Flag Market Harborough, Leicestershire 10 Jan 23 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Harborough Eagle Add Harborough Eagle as a friend

I am Type 2 and also not lifestyle related or overweight, however I do know a couple of people who are type 2 and insulin dependent who could really benefit from the patch as they are struggling with other health related issues that impact their lives. They have not been allowed the patch either. It should not be a one size fits all approach. Denying any sort of treatment on the basis of money alone can be a false economy as the patient might end up with worse health issues and more frequent trips to A/E.
Remember that Diabetes is a progressive disease...it does not automatically get better and sometimes even losing the weight still might not produce the natural insulin from the pancreas! In my case my pancreas just does not do it and needs the medical intervention of drugs.

 


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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 10 Jan 23 3.30pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Harborough Eagle

I am Type 2 and also not lifestyle related or overweight, however I do know a couple of people who are type 2 and insulin dependent who could really benefit from the patch as they are struggling with other health related issues that impact their lives. They have not been allowed the patch either. It should not be a one size fits all approach. Denying any sort of treatment on the basis of money alone can be a false economy as the patient might end up with worse health issues and more frequent trips to A/E.
Remember that Diabetes is a progressive disease...it does not automatically get better and sometimes even losing the weight still might not produce the natural insulin from the pancreas! In my case my pancreas just does not do it and needs the medical intervention of drugs.


How are you type 2 not lifestyle/diet related?

People have been mislead about being obese = type 2 while it is a big factor a large % are skinny people who have it.

No one with Type 2 should ever be offered one of these they need to sort themselves out stop making excuses this must really annoy type 1 people.

Why are you going on about weight type 2 99% is lifestyle/diet which can be managed and reversed.

You sound like a person who has been mislead this happens a lot doctors etc don't tell the full truth for numerous reasons.

Last thing a type 1 person should still be managing lifestyle/diet it doesn't give them an excuse.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Jan 23 4.33pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

althoug i am not a medical expert,

i heard a rumour that 'Intermittent Fasting' can make some dramatic improvements to Diabetes ? The idea of being starving will switch on your insulin production.


anybody knows about this ?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Jan 23 4.50pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

anybody knows about this ?

I expect that grumpymort does as he is a world renown medical expert on the matter knowing far more than the professionals

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Jan 23 5.26pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I expect that grumpymort does as he is a world renown medical expert on the matter knowing far more than the professionals

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Jan 23 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

althoug i am not a medical expert,

i heard a rumour that 'Intermittent Fasting' can make some dramatic improvements to Diabetes ? The idea of being starving will switch on your insulin production.


anybody knows about this ?

Fasting has been used for pretty much since humans were here. A normal human body is well adapted to it. The body is designed for feast or famine. The 'three meals a day' mode we have grown up in is relatively recent culturally.

I'm type 2 through a bad lifestyle and lost 45 pounds over five months by basically just eating between the hours of five and six a day.....just finished munching a little while ago. I stopped all medications a couple of months ago.

It's something that has to be built up to though as initially you'd be very hungry all the time.

To address the weight loss aspect. If you take in less calories than you burn you are always going to lose weight. As you lose weight the harder the body works to retain it. However, as you lose it your body can become more active for longer without tiring so exercise can counterbalance that.

Like everything though you really have to get your mind set beforehand to do it otherwise you'll just give up when it gets tough. Losing weight isn't easy and you need to be committed to it like it's some kind of job, otherwise you'll just get p1ssed off with it.

There are certain techniques you can use to keep you motivated. Some people join groups but all that's a bit needy for me. For me I found that looking in the mirror each day, weighing yourself each day keeps you motivated. Hit the weights, start walking or jogging or some cardio exercise. It doesn't have to be much at the start. Some people take a picture every couple of pounds they lose to document the weight loss and that's a motivation as well.

I don't know your medical history though so before you'd start anything I'd take in advice from those you know how your body works.....Back when you could see a GP that would be them. Ultimately our medical choices are our own responsibility.

I'm fine doing this however I've known some people faint on low amounts of calories and if you're diabetic you always need to know how you body responds to avoid hypos. I'd never had to take them but I always walk around with glucose tablets on me. Also on low calories a good multivitamin is just sensible.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2023 7.08pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Jan 23 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I’m only flagging this up and trying to be neutral, although my son has type 1
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This sounds really promising.

Type 1 is just crap and unfair and I hope your lad gets this if it's best for him.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Jan 23 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I expect that grumpymort does as he is a world renown medical expert on the matter knowing far more than the professionals

Isn’t this the truth

 

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