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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 09 Feb 23 9.45pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

I’ve started this thread in the Palace Talk section because it deals primarily with players currently with us.

Much of our focus as fans regarding the coming summer window is the sheer number of players whose contracts expire and we can all try and play the game of who will be offered terms and who will be released.

However, reading the latest clickbait about Spurs apparent interest in Guehi raises the question – which of our valuable player assets might depart this summer?

Let’s face it, if one of the big clubs comes calling ,which of our (basically young) players won’t be itching to make the move with the chance of European football and possible trophies? (Saying ‘no’ to a big club in January as Brighton did to Arsenal is one thing but will Caicedo really still be a Brighton player come next season now that his head has been turned?)

For my part, I see both Guehi and Olise as possible victims of big club enticement this summer and whilst we might make big profits on them, they can be difficult to replace in a hurry. One can only hope that Freedman and Co will already have potential replacements in mind for those of our players deemed most at risk of being lured away.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Feb 23 10.05pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

An obvious one is Wilf will go. I presume we will replace with Sarr - as it seems to take us that long to get targets in general. Spurs for Guehi sounds ok for him but I have noticed quite silly bids from them before for our players. I reckon Guehi has to be a 40 mil player - more maybe. He has good stats but is young and English.
Obviously Richards has done ok: but we would need another centre back. Apparently O'Brien is pretty good which is relatively interesting.
Olise - the French Textor side worries me. I can only imagine the mayhem if he nicks Olise for them. Conversely, I've a strange feeling (backed up by absolutely nothing) that Olise would like that move. But, I mean, who would swap South London for the French Riviera? - no way we all say! Surely Norwood miles better.
The out of contract players and the amount of transfers we will likely require seems quite daunting.
Overall, I have to say - I think we need to focus on this season first. There's a strange sleep walking into trouble feeling. Not doom and gloom yet, but clouds on the horizon.

 


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View Brinscalleagle2's Profile Brinscalleagle2 Flag Brinscall 09 Feb 23 10.16pm Send a Private Message to Brinscalleagle2 Add Brinscalleagle2 as a friend

Interesting thought and you are right there are those who have to go and those who might be poached. The likes of Guehi Olise and Eze are all young and will in no way be thinking they will be at Palace in the long term. I believe that their career objective
Is to showcase themselves for moves to bigger clubs which the Club must be aware of so there is no doubt that if the right offers come in they will go. To date Guehi and Olise have shown their potential and are targets. Eze is less convincing. This all points towards a more disruptive turnover in players than we might imagine.COYP

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Feb 23 8.20am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

It's a very good point and I think the thought of this perhaps already lacking squad losing Wilf, Olise, Guehi, ASL departing from loan and then others who are looking slightly past it these days is cause for concern. Schlupp is over 30 now, you have Joel who occasionally rolls back the years but more often than not looks to be well past his best, McArthur, Ayew, Tomkins, Luka all entering their last if not very last days and other bit part players many have deemed sub-par for a while now.

I find it hard to believe the club is unaware of this and therefore will allow complete catastrophe to strike however our track record is hardly the best. The bringing in of the likes of Marc, Joachim, Olise, Edouard, Eze and Doucoure in the last few years suggest there is some effort there however my fear is still the attempt to do this is more reactionary and absolutely necessary in plastering over massive holes and very precarious as opposed to progressive.

Whilst I hope for a transformational summer, provided we avoid relegation, I'm not going to get my hopes up too high as this could well leave my anxiety and despair very vulnerable when little to nothing occurs.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Feb 23 8.31am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It's a very good point and I think the thought of this perhaps already lacking squad losing Wilf, Olise, Guehi, ASL departing from loan and then others who are looking slightly past it these days is cause for concern.

I'm sure that I read that the club won't allow Wilf and Olise to leave in the same window and I'm guessing that the reason that we bought Richards was to replace Guehi in a year's time.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 10 Feb 23 8.37am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Summer 2023, when the bulldozers move in to demolish the stadium to make way for a Mega Walmart...

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Feb 23 8.41am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm sure that I read that the club won't allow Wilf and Olise to leave in the same window and I'm guessing that the reason that we bought Richards was to replace Guehi in a year's time.

TBH ME I really wouldn't be too fussed with Olise leaving with Wilf if it provided the money to buy in an already well scouted replacement. I really like him, and thinks he has moments of genius, but he is hardly a consistent tour-de-force and it's a 40+ games season (inc. cups).

As for Richards replacing Guehi, I can see that but then what are our other options at CB? Tomkins will surely be gone and I can't see Ward earmarked as starting every game for us there next season.

That's already 2 wingers and probably a couple of CB's need signing. That's before the midfield and wingbacks too. It's close to an entire new first team. Are we also expecting Guaita to be here and play as no.1 next season? If Johnstone is good enough and ready where is he? Many also consider us in need of a striker as OE/JPM not good enough.

Certainly a lot to worry about if you are so inclined. I find any Palace fan that does not perhaps admirable but more so bewildering!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 10 Feb 23 8.50am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

In recent years we haven’t been a selling club.
In terms of high profile sales I can only think of AWB and Bolassie and even then we obtained excessive transfer fees.
We obviously managed to hold on to Wilf , but there was also high level interest in Scott Dann when he was at his best, and we managed to rebuff this too.
With regard to Guehi he has managed to get England caps while at Palace and I believe he has been earmarked as a future Palace captain.
Obviously every player has his price, but he doesn’t strike me as a troublemaker or one who would agitate for a move.
We don’t appear to operate a similar model to Brighton who seem to develop players for the top 6 while extracting maximum value from their sales.

I acknowledge we could be under more selling pressure with the younger players we are now buying and note that reputedly Olise has a release clause in his contract.
I don’t see him staying at Palace for 10 years .
Furthermore, the ownership structure has changed in recent years which means that Parish may not totally call the shots any more on player sales.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Feb 23 8.59am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I think maybe wait and see what division what we are in first.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Feb 23 9.06am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think maybe wait and see what division what we are in first.

It is by no means certain that we will be ploughing our furrow in the PL.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Feb 23 9.35am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It is by no means certain that we will be ploughing our furrow in the PL.

It is far more likely that we will be "ploughing our furrow in the PL" to use your quaint agricultural term than that we won't - at least according to the bookies and they don't get much wrong (Leicester excepted).

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Feb 23 9.36am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It is by no means certain that we will be ploughing our furrow in the PL.

i think it is 50/50 at the moment, lose to both Brighton and Brentford, 60/40

 


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