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 Badger11  Beckenham 19 May 23 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Maybe that’s why gas is being phased out. Nothing to do with saving the planet but to enable remote monitoring of appliances. Atm AI cannot service a boiler I have an annual service but if my boiler is remotely monitored by AI I suppose they could argue they only need to send someone when they spot a problem?
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The groover  Danbury 19 May 23 10.05pm |
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I'm retired now but over the years as an Engineer I've worked in a variety of sectors. I started off in defence projects which was a massive section in the 70s/80's bit then died when the cold war ended. It may be making a come back now! Then Computing. Mainframes. Hasn't died but as electronics become smaller it was more economical to replace the unit than repair it! The the Print industry which involved scanning pictures and film setters. With the advent of digital film died but plate setters hit the market. Books and newspapers started to disappear. Then China entered the market and the UK jobbing printers started to die as did the UK print market. I then became a medical engineer repairing healthcare machines. Currently that is still expanding. Remote working I becoming a thing as well. Where consultants can operate remotely. GULP! My point is that as one industry dies another takes its place. Always has done and probably always will.
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| thechaddyboy Peterborough 19 May 23 10.19pm |
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After 20 odd years self employed with a store I finally threw in the towel (rents, rates & change in the market), worked in the civil service for past 3 years but only via agencies, may stand a chance of a fixed term 2 year deal but nothings guaranteed. Currently contracted to work full time from home, sure ain't the golden goose many will have you believe, would love to be back in the office just for some banter.
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| cryrst The garden of England 20 May 23 3.37am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I have an annual service but if my boiler is remotely monitored by AI I suppose they could argue they only need to send someone when they spot a problem? The thing is a boiler ‘service’ is actually a safety check. Mainly because of gas escapes and emissions from the combustion process. With electric these are eliminated and water pressure will be the only real point of safety failure and can be monitored remotely.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 23 6.10am |
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Originally posted by The groover
I'm retired now but over the years as an Engineer I've worked in a variety of sectors. I started off in defence projects which was a massive section in the 70s/80's bit then died when the cold war ended. It may be making a come back now! Then Computing. Mainframes. Hasn't died but as electronics become smaller it was more economical to replace the unit than repair it! The the Print industry which involved scanning pictures and film setters. With the advent of digital film died but plate setters hit the market. Books and newspapers started to disappear. Then China entered the market and the UK jobbing printers started to die as did the UK print market. I then became a medical engineer repairing healthcare machines. Currently that is still expanding. Remote working I becoming a thing as well. Where consultants can operate remotely. GULP! My point is that as one industry dies another takes its place. Always has done and probably always will.
It about what replaces an industry and who benefits from that change. The fields use to be full but machines took a lot of those jobs as with working in the print and newspapers. It's about the pay and security of the jobs that take its place. A lot of industry in the north lost jobs in the seventies and eighties and its replacements? Wasn't the advice, 'get on your bike'...move to the city kind of thing, which for many wasn't an option and led to many lives being dramatically negatively affected. AI advancements and automation will do the same and we are living on the cusp of starting that period of transition. A lot less people are going to be required to work within industries that can be automated. The high IQ will probably always find employment but most people aren't high IQ. Roughly two thirds of northern European nations have an IQ between 85 to 115 and only about ten percent over 120. Less people are going to be needed....Some might say that a lot of things become clearer when considered within that context.
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| YT Oxford 20 May 23 6.39am |
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Originally posted by thechaddyboy
After 20 odd years self employed with a store I finally threw in the towel (rents, rates & change in the market), worked in the civil service for past 3 years but only via agencies, may stand a chance of a fixed term 2 year deal but nothings guaranteed. Currently contracted to work full time from home, sure ain't the golden goose many will have you believe, would love to be back in the office just for some banter. Surely you get that on HOL, don't you?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 May 23 7.26am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The thing is a boiler ‘service’ is actually a safety check. Mainly because of gas escapes and emissions from the combustion process. With electric these are eliminated and water pressure will be the only real point of safety failure and can be monitored remotely. Sure I get that but as technology gets better I can see BG and others saying you don't need an automatic annual check and of course an electric boiler would be even easier.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 20 May 23 7.29am |
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Originally posted by The groover
I'm retired now but over the years as an Engineer I've worked in a variety of sectors. I started off in defence projects which was a massive section in the 70s/80's bit then died when the cold war ended. It may be making a come back now! Then Computing. Mainframes. Hasn't died but as electronics become smaller it was more economical to replace the unit than repair it! The the Print industry which involved scanning pictures and film setters. With the advent of digital film died but plate setters hit the market. Books and newspapers started to disappear. Then China entered the market and the UK jobbing printers started to die as did the UK print market. I then became a medical engineer repairing healthcare machines. Currently that is still expanding. Remote working I becoming a thing as well. Where consultants can operate remotely. GULP! My point is that as one industry dies another takes its place. Always has done and probably always will.
I think this is the point, up to now that was true, copy typists became data entry clerks secretary's became PA's. However the new jobs may well be done by technology which will not help anyone looking for work.
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| YT Oxford 20 May 23 8.14am |
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The future of mankind does indeed appear to be pretty grim for many reasons - this included - yet still people carry on procreating like there's no tomorrow.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 23 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by YT
The future of mankind does indeed appear to be pretty grim for many reasons - this included - yet still people carry on procreating like there's no tomorrow. Not at replacement levels.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 May 23 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not at replacement levels. Amongst certain societies and demographics.
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| cryrst The garden of England 21 May 23 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Amongst certain societies and demographics. So basically whiteys can go feck themselves when employment becomes harder
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