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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 03 Jul 23 11.54am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Austrian GP
This is a pivotal moment, because the finishing order of some of the race finishers was changed after the race had been completed.
This is something people in the FA and Bernie Ecclestone wanted to avoid. People going home after a sporting event has been completed, shouldn't arrive home to find the result has changed.
Well, now it has. Not for the podium drivers, but for lower order finishers. this is the thin end of a massive wedge.


"The overall result of the race is being reviewed after a protest by Aston Martin about unpenalised track limits offences, which was upheld.
Organisers said: "An unprecedented situation arose which resulted in all potential infringements not being able to be reviewed during the race. Prior to the submission of a Protest against the result, we had already begun a full review of the track limits infringements, which is ongoing.

"The results will be updated once the review of those which were not able to be reviewed during the race is complete." (BBC)

 


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They love a good farce in the who has the best car contest. I stopped caring after the two lap safety car race where the result stood and no one got a refund.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 03 Jul 23 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I saw my first GP at Silverstone in 1963. Jim Clark won. I have been an enthusiastic supporter of the sport ever since and I agree that it is most unsatisfactory to see results altered after the race is over.

But, in the drive to make motor sport safer than it was when I started watching, the circuits have been extended to take away the dangerous trees and other trackside furniture that was a potential hazard. Even gravel traps have mostly gone because they were considered a risk.

Circuit limits are defined by the markings clearly visible as white lines on each side of the track. Drivers know they should not cross them and if they do they will be penalised. They even get two warnings before being given a time penalty.

It is interesting that Max Verstappen won the sprint race on Saturday and the Grand Prix yesterday without crossing the lines. He is an exceptional talent and he knew the risk and drove very fast within the limits and the rules.

I dislike seeing results altered retrospectively, but it is not unprecedented in a sport of such fine margins.

 


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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 03 Jul 23 2.01pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

I think someone needs to retrospectìvely look at the 2016 FA Cup final and alter the result.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Jul 23 6.39am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

I think someone needs to retrospectìvely look at the 2016 FA Cup final and alter the result.

That was a strange one as clattenburg retrospectively knew who was going to win before the game

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 04 Jul 23 8.49am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I saw my first GP at Silverstone in 1963. Jim Clark won. I have been an enthusiastic supporter of the sport ever since and I agree that it is most unsatisfactory to see results altered after the race is over.

But, in the drive to make motor sport safer than it was when I started watching, the circuits have been extended to take away the dangerous trees and other trackside furniture that was a potential hazard. Even gravel traps have mostly gone because they were considered a risk.

Circuit limits are defined by the markings clearly visible as white lines on each side of the track. Drivers know they should not cross them and if they do they will be penalised. They even get two warnings before being given a time penalty.

It is interesting that Max Verstappen won the sprint race on Saturday and the Grand Prix yesterday without crossing the lines. He is an exceptional talent and he knew the risk and drove very fast within the limits and the rules.

I dislike seeing results altered retrospectively, but it is not unprecedented in a sport of such fine margins.

I think most of the offenders tripped up at the same corner ,coming out of turn 10 . I mentioned at the time to the Mrs who is a big fan that they needed to slow the cars down a bit on entry to the corner . She gave me a weird look as if I was a 10 year old girl talking about the offside trap and told me to go and peel some spuds or something .
She also hates Verstappen , drags his dad around with him who used to beat his mother , Cant understand that one myself .

Anyway enjoy .

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 04 Jul 23 9.07am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

I think most of the offenders tripped up at the same corner ,coming out of turn 10 . I mentioned at the time to the Mrs who is a big fan that they needed to slow the cars down a bit on entry to the corner . She gave me a weird look as if I was a 10 year old girl talking about the offside trap and told me to go and peel some spuds or something .
She also hates Verstappen , drags his dad around with him who used to beat his mother , Cant understand that one myself .

Anyway enjoy .

I hear Sky are looking for a new pundit Elpis. You're right about that corner, thing is Verstappen managed it OK.

 


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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I saw my first GP at Silverstone in 1963. Jim Clark won. I have been an enthusiastic supporter of the sport ever since and I agree that it is most unsatisfactory to see results altered after the race is over.

But, in the drive to make motor sport safer than it was when I started watching, the circuits have been extended to take away the dangerous trees and other trackside furniture that was a potential hazard. Even gravel traps have mostly gone because they were considered a risk.

Circuit limits are defined by the markings clearly visible as white lines on each side of the track. Drivers know they should not cross them and if they do they will be penalised. They even get two warnings before being given a time penalty.

It is interesting that Max Verstappen won the sprint race on Saturday and the Grand Prix yesterday without crossing the lines. He is an exceptional talent and he knew the risk and drove very fast within the limits and the rules.

I dislike seeing results altered retrospectively, but it is not unprecedented in a sport of such fine margins.

That’s why I prefer the Indy Cars and Touring Cars now, although they’ve done a lot to make the Indy cars safer after deaths, it’s still mayhem and chaos sometimes now, which makes it still so watchable.
I’d say to anyone go to Silverstone and experience F1 live, it’s mind blowing the speed of it all and it’s a great weekend, but as a sport it’s been a farce for a long time now and it is dull as dishwater to watch on TV

Edited by monkey (04 Jul 2023 9.50am)

 


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Dull as. Try to keep up to date, but It's just so predictable with stupid rules to attempt to make it safer/fairer/more exciting. It never feels like a fair race with loopholes being exploited at every corner.


 


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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 05 Jul 23 11.33am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I saw my first GP at Silverstone in 1963. Jim Clark won. I have been an enthusiastic supporter of the sport ever since and I agree that it is most unsatisfactory to see results altered after the race is over.

But, in the drive to make motor sport safer than it was when I started watching, the circuits have been extended to take away the dangerous trees and other trackside furniture that was a potential hazard. Even gravel traps have mostly gone because they were considered a risk.

My first attendance at a race meeting was in 1963 at Crystal Palace. Incidentally, Jim Clark won the main event that day in a Lotus 23 sports car.

My first Grand Prix was the first at Brands Hatch in 1964 ( also won by Jim Clark).Our first experiences often set the template for how we judge things in the future. I am glad I was able to witness racing in that era on tracks where you could be close to the action and didn't have huge run off areas. Circuits had character, and the pit row didn't have the sterile look like something you might find in a high-tec business park.

Each passing year has chipped away at my enthusiasm for the sport to the point where my interest now just consists of having a glance at the BBC Sport website on the Sunday evening of a Grand Prix to see who won.I think that manufactured outcome of the final race of 2021 did it for me.

But I accept that F1 has a huge following and I am not going to be a moaning dinosaur who drones on about how much better it was in the past. I think we are all hostage to the times we were born in.

One thing that does irk me is when I visit motor sport nostalgia sites and posters go on about how today's drivers have it easy and wouldn't have the versatility to drive the variety of cars that the pilots of yesteryear did. What they base that claim on I don't know, but given the chance I am sure they could turn their hand to any type of car.

 

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Originally posted by Pete53

My first attendance at a race meeting was in 1963 at Crystal Palace. Incidentally, Jim Clark won the main event that day in a Lotus 23 sports car.

My first Grand Prix was the first at Brands Hatch in 1964 ( also won by Jim Clark).Our first experiences often set the template for how we judge things in the future. I am glad I was able to witness racing in that era on tracks where you could be close to the action and didn't have huge run off areas. Circuits had character, and the pit row didn't have the sterile look like something you might find in a high-tec business park.

Each passing year has chipped away at my enthusiasm for the sport to the point where my interest now just consists of having a glance at the BBC Sport website on the Sunday evening of a Grand Prix to see who won.I think that manufactured outcome of the final race of 2021 did it for me.

But I accept that F1 has a huge following and I am not going to be a moaning dinosaur who drones on about how much better it was in the past. I think we are all hostage to the times we were born in.

One thing that does irk me is when I visit motor sport nostalgia sites and posters go on about how today's drivers have it easy and wouldn't have the versatility to drive the variety of cars that the pilots of yesteryear did. What they base that claim on I don't know, but given the chance I am sure they could turn their hand to any type of car.

I seem to remember it being full of weird looking blokes, in greasy overalls, many of them with a lit cigarette either in hand or dangling from their lips if busy doing something..... HSA eat your heart out...

 


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For me it all started going wrong when the highly informative displays of semi-named women holding the grid position signs were got rid of.

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