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Glazier#1 01 Oct 23 2.13pm
A&Ejam? Originally posted by silvertop Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to? Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break. Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?)
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01 Oct 23 2.13pm

A&Ejam?

Originally posted by silvertop

Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to?

Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break.

Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?)

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YT Oxford 02 Oct 23 8.18am
Originally posted by silvertop Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to? Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break. Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?) Boring, I know, but it's a fleet. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 02 Oct 23 8.18am

Originally posted by silvertop

Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to?

Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break.

Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?)

Boring, I know, but it's a fleet.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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silvertop Portishead 02 Oct 23 10.17am
Originally posted by YT Boring, I know, but it's a fleet. Not a queue then?
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silvertop

Portishead 02 Oct 23 10.17am

Originally posted by YT

Boring, I know, but it's a fleet.

Not a queue then?

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YT Oxford 02 Oct 23 10.22am
Originally posted by silvertop Not a queue then? No Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 02 Oct 23 10.22am

Originally posted by silvertop

Not a queue then?

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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TheBigToePunt 02 Oct 23 10.59am
Originally posted by silvertop True. Thank heaven Guehi was only minor. Or is it? Galitasera not happy they got Wilf pig in a poke. Their due diligence nothing we did wrong. However, makes you think how many players are compelled to play injured? The rich clubs can rest their players properly. We cannot. I would speculate that Wilf's injury woes (both now and in the last year or two) are the result of him rushing back to play too soon, too often over the years. On more than one occasion he had hamstring injuries that normally require a 6-8 week rest, yet was somehow back playing after 2-3. Roy would often remark on Wilf's ability to heal quickly, but I think we all know that it was the players desire to play that was the key, along with (as you say) us having very little option but to pick him if he declared himself fit. It will be interesting to see if Olise, Franca, Eze, Guehi et al follow a similar pattern. For one thing, players with Wilf's desire to play through pain are few and far between. In addition, we were never going to sell Wilf, relying instead on him to play. The plan will be to sell most or all of the current young stars at some stage, and if any of them develop transfer-scuppering injury problems it will affect our new economic strategy quite drastically. Through a combination of the players mindset and the clubs policy, I can't imagine any of the current lot playing themselves into the ground like Wilf did. Edited by TheBigToePunt (02 Oct 2023 11.01am)
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02 Oct 23 10.59am

Originally posted by silvertop

True. Thank heaven Guehi was only minor. Or is it?

Galitasera not happy they got Wilf pig in a poke. Their due diligence nothing we did wrong. However, makes you think how many players are compelled to play injured? The rich clubs can rest their players properly. We cannot.

I would speculate that Wilf's injury woes (both now and in the last year or two) are the result of him rushing back to play too soon, too often over the years.

On more than one occasion he had hamstring injuries that normally require a 6-8 week rest, yet was somehow back playing after 2-3. Roy would often remark on Wilf's ability to heal quickly, but I think we all know that it was the players desire to play that was the key, along with (as you say) us having very little option but to pick him if he declared himself fit.

It will be interesting to see if Olise, Franca, Eze, Guehi et al follow a similar pattern. For one thing, players with Wilf's desire to play through pain are few and far between. In addition, we were never going to sell Wilf, relying instead on him to play. The plan will be to sell most or all of the current young stars at some stage, and if any of them develop transfer-scuppering injury problems it will affect our new economic strategy quite drastically.

Through a combination of the players mindset and the clubs policy, I can't imagine any of the current lot playing themselves into the ground like Wilf did.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (02 Oct 2023 11.01am)

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palace99 New Mills 03 Oct 23 10.32am
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt I would speculate that Wilf's injury woes (both now and in the last year or two) are the result of him rushing back to play too soon, too often over the years. On more than one occasion he had hamstring injuries that normally require a 6-8 week rest, yet was somehow back playing after 2-3. Roy would often remark on Wilf's ability to heal quickly, but I think we all know that it was the players desire to play that was the key, along with (as you say) us having very little option but to pick him if he declared himself fit. It will be interesting to see if Olise, Franca, Eze, Guehi et al follow a similar pattern. For one thing, players with Wilf's desire to play through pain are few and far between. In addition, we were never going to sell Wilf, relying instead on him to play. The plan will be to sell most or all of the current young stars at some stage, and if any of them develop transfer-scuppering injury problems it will affect our new economic strategy quite drastically. Through a combination of the players mindset and the clubs policy, I can't imagine any of the current lot playing themselves into the ground like Wilf did. Edited by TheBigToePunt (02 Oct 2023 11.01am) Hamstring injuries are graded due to their severity. A mild strain (a few weeks) up to a full tear (3 months as per Olise). It is difficult to compare say 2 people with a strain as there are levels within that and this will impact the healing time. I don't think Wilf could be rushed back from such an injury as if you've ever done your hamstring you will know it is impossible to run. Also, remember all Prem teams probably have oxygen tanks etc which are used to speed up the healing process. Most players are prepared to play through a few aches and pains - i remember Jose at Chelsea, during the peak of their powers, being really unhappy with Robben when he refused to play when he had a mild injury, so it is clearly not just a Palace issue.
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New Mills 03 Oct 23 10.32am

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I would speculate that Wilf's injury woes (both now and in the last year or two) are the result of him rushing back to play too soon, too often over the years.

On more than one occasion he had hamstring injuries that normally require a 6-8 week rest, yet was somehow back playing after 2-3. Roy would often remark on Wilf's ability to heal quickly, but I think we all know that it was the players desire to play that was the key, along with (as you say) us having very little option but to pick him if he declared himself fit.

Through a combination of the players mindset and the clubs policy, I can't imagine any of the current lot playing themselves into the ground like Wilf did.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (02 Oct 2023 11.01am)

Hamstring injuries are graded due to their severity. A mild strain (a few weeks) up to a full tear (3 months as per Olise).
It is difficult to compare say 2 people with a strain as there are levels within that and this will impact the healing time.
I don't think Wilf could be rushed back from such an injury as if you've ever done your hamstring you will know it is impossible to run.

Also, remember all Prem teams probably have oxygen tanks etc which are used to speed up the healing process.

Most players are prepared to play through a few aches and pains - i remember Jose at Chelsea, during the peak of their powers, being really unhappy with Robben when he refused to play when he had a mild injury, so it is clearly not just a Palace issue.

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BelfastEagle 03 Oct 23 11.52am
Originally posted by silvertop Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to? Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break. Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?) No doubt Lerma will be called up by Columbia and will return injured again.
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BelfastEagle

03 Oct 23 11.52am

Originally posted by silvertop

Perhaps the 2 that got away over the summer that RH refers to?

Hughes was so good yesterday we can afford to rest Lerma until after the international break.

Fingers crossed the break doesn't send half our team back in an ambulance (what is the collective noun for ambulances? A ner-ner?)

No doubt Lerma will be called up by Columbia and will return injured again.

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bifffabazz Highworth, Wiltshire 04 Oct 23 1.30pm
Muscular injuries are almost entirely caused by poor conditioning and preparation. They are rarely 'unfortunate'. I presume that SP knows this and will be reviewing things with his staff. There are strength and conditioning teams out there whose clubs record as little as one or two muscular injuries all season. We can ill-afford loyalty to our S&T team if they continue to fail in their main purpose. Spirit of 1974
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Highworth, Wiltshire 04 Oct 23 1.30pm

Muscular injuries are almost entirely caused by poor conditioning and preparation. They are rarely 'unfortunate'. I presume that SP knows this and will be reviewing things with his staff. There are strength and conditioning teams out there whose clubs record as little as one or two muscular injuries all season. We can ill-afford loyalty to our S&T team if they continue to fail in their main purpose.

Spirit of 1974

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Oct 23 1.54pm
Originally posted by bifffabazz Muscular injuries are almost entirely caused by poor conditioning and preparation. They are rarely 'unfortunate'. I presume that SP knows this and will be reviewing things with his staff. There are strength and conditioning teams out there whose clubs record as little as one or two muscular injuries all season. We can ill-afford loyalty to our S&T team if they continue to fail in their main purpose. One wonders which ex players are doing this job. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Oct 23 1.54pm

Originally posted by bifffabazz

One wonders which ex players are doing this job.

Red and Blue Army!

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Putitout Oxford 04 Oct 23 3.54pm
Probably still short of match fitness, but how good to see Franca, in training with the team, looks pretty sharpe, and might soon come into the picture, definitely looks useful . After the recent run of injuries, a bit of good news, and who knows after the international break he might be on show.
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Oxford 04 Oct 23 3.54pm

Probably still short of match fitness, but how good to see Franca, in training with the team, looks pretty sharpe, and might soon come into the picture, definitely looks useful . After the recent run of injuries, a bit of good news, and who knows after the international break he might be on show.

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monkey Sittingbourne,Kent 04 Oct 23 4.03pm
Originally posted by bifffabazz Muscular injuries are almost entirely caused by poor conditioning and preparation. They are rarely 'unfortunate'. I presume that SP knows this and will be reviewing things with his staff. There are strength and conditioning teams out there whose clubs record as little as one or two muscular injuries all season. We can ill-afford loyalty to our S&T team if they continue to fail in their main purpose. Is it not the same team that have kept us relatively injury free in past seasons then? I know other staff members get shuffled around and move on as well as the players, so I honestly don’t know. Edited by monkey (04 Oct 2023 4.04pm) Made in Bromley
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Sittingbourne,Kent 04 Oct 23 4.03pm

Originally posted by bifffabazz

Is it not the same team that have kept us relatively injury free in past seasons then? I know other staff members get shuffled around and move on as well as the players, so I honestly don’t know.

Edited by monkey (04 Oct 2023 4.04pm)

Made in Bromley

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 04 Oct 23 4.26pm
Originally posted by monkey Is it not the same team that have kept us relatively injury free in past seasons then? I know other staff members get shuffled around and move on as well as the players, so I honestly don’t know. Edited by monkey (04 Oct 2023 4.04pm) You would like to think that Eze is not as bad as portrayed, and it would be a ploy to rest him and keep him out of an England call-up, maybe i am wide of the mark. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 04 Oct 23 4.26pm

Originally posted by monkey

Is it not the same team that have kept us relatively injury free in past seasons then? I know other staff members get shuffled around and move on as well as the players, so I honestly don’t know.

Edited by monkey (04 Oct 2023 4.04pm)

You would like to think that Eze is not as bad as portrayed, and it would be a ploy to rest him and keep him out of an England call-up, maybe i am wide of the mark.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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