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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Apr 24 11.38pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

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They might be at the beach !!!

Perhaps it's seaside R and R for the Hamas fighters.

I have not come across this youtube channel before, certainly a different perspective.

He seems to be fact check before posting.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Apr 24 6.57am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

So Israel fires missiles into Iran. No doubt American made missiles.
The same America that recognised the 'shared' Jerusalem as Israel's capital, replacing Tel Aviv.
Millions of Palestinians now starving and dying, but stirring some stuff with Iran has provided a useful media distraction. And let's not forget, Israel fired first into Iran.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 19 Apr 24 7.04am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I want what I hope everyone wants. Which isn’t as simple as wanting Israel to prevail. I want peace to prevail. Not just in the Middle East but the whole world. That peace is threatened by situations like this and not helped by those suggesting simple solutions.

Yet you said: Wanting to see Hamas defeated and removed as the authority in Gaza is, so far as I am aware, the aim of everyone writing here.

That would mean Israel prevailing.

I'm not suggesting simple solutions at all, I'm stating the meaning of what you said, ie: that you think everyone on here wants Israel to win - which clearly they don't.

Edited by georgenorman (19 Apr 2024 7.06am)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Apr 24 7.16am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Perhaps it's seaside R and R for the Hamas fighters.

I have not come across this youtube channel before, certainly a different perspective.

He seems to be fact check before posting.

He’s quite on the money and the establishment are after him so it must be touching a nerve.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Apr 24 8.27am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Oil companies are already raising prices now Iran has been hit. All those many months of slow price reductions at the pump, now going to be ramped back up overnight.
Greedy cnts love a war.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Apr 24 8.35am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So Israel fires missiles into Iran. No doubt American made missiles.
The same America that recognised the 'shared' Jerusalem as Israel's capital, replacing Tel Aviv.
Millions of Palestinians now starving and dying, but stirring some stuff with Iran has provided a useful media distraction. And let's not forget, Israel fired first into Iran.

So if you got run over by a BMW, you would blame the Germans?

I'm loathed to say, but some might think that you sympathise with Iran.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 Apr 24 8.47am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Perhaps it's seaside R and R for the Hamas fighters.

I have not come across this youtube channel before, certainly a different perspective.

He seems to be fact check before posting.

No, just where many Palestinians have to live now.

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At least he seems to be fact checking before posting.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 19 Apr 24 8.55am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

He’s quite on the money and the establishment are after him so it must be touching a nerve.

In what way are 'the establishment' after Mahyar Tousi TV, cryst?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Apr 24 8.59am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

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They might be at the beach !!!

Yes, Gaza has a beach. Big surprise. It borders the sea. It gets hot there so people use it.

The guy producing the video is, apparently, a well known YouTuber who promotes some hard right views. He has been compared to Katie Hopkins. Which is not something I find flattering.

He claims the footage was from today, but provides no evidence of that and is quite careful with his words. Did it happen today, or get posted somewhere today?

In 2023 such scenes would have happened every day, but 2024? I think there are other priorities so extreme caution and Independent verification is required before it can be trusted as authentic.

What has been verified is the extensive damage caused in Gaza by the IDF.

People like him attacking the MSM are a joke. They do so without any kind of oversight or editorial control and can post whatever slurs they like. Those who seek confirmation of their biases lap it up as though it’s the unvarnished truth.

So let’s see if anyone else picks up the story.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (19 Apr 2024 9.01am)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Apr 24 9.18am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Yet you said: Wanting to see Hamas defeated and removed as the authority in Gaza is, so far as I am aware, the aim of everyone writing here.

That would mean Israel prevailing.

I'm not suggesting simple solutions at all, I'm stating the meaning of what you said, ie: that you think everyone on here wants Israel to win - which clearly they don't.

Edited by georgenorman (19 Apr 2024 7.06am)

No it wouldn’t!

The defeat and removal of Hamas is but one strand of a complicated international situation. It cannot be viewed in isolation. It is just not that simple.

Removing Hamas without finding a way to establish peaceful coexistence between Israel and Iran and all the other Iranian surrogates would simply mean the problem has shifted. Israel would not have prevailed in any kind of meaningful way.

You prevail when you win a war. Not after a battle.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Apr 24 10.23am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it wouldn’t!

The defeat and removal of Hamas is but one strand of a complicated international situation. It cannot be viewed in isolation. It is just not that simple.

Removing Hamas without finding a way to establish peaceful coexistence between Israel and Iran and all the other Iranian surrogates would simply mean the problem has shifted. Israel would not have prevailed in any kind of meaningful way.

You prevail when you win a war. Not after a battle.

Once again, I have to agree.

Destroying Hamas would do everyone a favour, and I would suggest that removing the Iranian fundamentalist government would also be a very good thing, however, life is not quite that simple.

There needs to be an understanding that mutual interests can best be served by peace in the region and that destabilising elements like Hezbollah, ISIS and the rest must be brought to heel.
We won't stop the resentment between Jew and Arab anytime soon or ever, but everyone stands to gain from stability.

Human aggression and tribalism won't change and never will, but offer a big enough carrot to be peaceful and most will take it.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Apr 24 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Israeli missile has struck Iran apparently.

Anyone care to elaborate on what this 'means'? I've not been following with enough interest to hold an informed opinion on the symbolism/consequences of this, nor have the general knowledge or understanding of it all to do likewise.

Grazi.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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