I think half the issue is that they've pulled the trigger to late - no one will want it now.

We've a better squad than a few teams, but our manager seems to want to drill into us we are not good enough. When he was at Liverpool - the players there said they were made to be fearful of the opposition, not concentrate on how good they were.

Hrolf mentioned somewhere about missing Eze, Olise, Doucoure, etc - well I can't help but think Roy's training methods are not suited to any kind of attacking player. It's clear we don't practice any form of attacking, and it's all structure in defence and our flair players are being overworked.

Sadly I think Roy is a relic of a bygone era - and also a stubborn old man unable to admit any kind of mistake - take his England leaving interview. Unable to take any kind of responsibility or understand how he could possibly have got anything wrong.

He'd have had Wright and Bright defending from the front in 1990, and we'd have gone down.

I don't feel the same kind of connection to Palace these days, and sadly Roy is part of that. Organisation is what you need when you are in crisis, managed progression is what you need when you are stable. What was progressive 50 years ago isn't now. At one time trench warfare was progressive.

I think we are stuck with him though and if I was a Palace player I'd be looking at my manager thinking that he wouldn't inspire a rabbit to reproduce. Then he'd replace the rabbit with a young player and blame the young player when it doesn't happen.

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And therein lies the problem. Hodgson doesn't know how to win games without them. He doesn't know how best to use the resources at his disposal. Hence, the clamour for him to be relieved of his duties.

Concur, Was the same thing with Wilf

I think fans have to remember that Zaha essentially kept us up for most of the last decade. We were inevitably going to miss him this season.
The two men most able to replace his loss are constantly injured and we have lost a key man in our defensive system.
Steve Parish will weigh those factors and decide if and when changing the manager is a risk worth taking.
If things get more desperate, he will eventually twist and make a change.

Despite the current fan frenzy, the decisions have to be made based on reason, not knee jerk irrationality.
Like it or not, Hodgson's tactics are only a small part of our current predicament.
I just hope that the fans recognise the importance of solidarity and get behind the team on Monday. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of faith in the reasoning skills of the self important Holmesdale mob.

The fact Cooper came into Forest mid-season and lifted them from the relegation zone and into the PL shows he can step in without a preseason. He has a history of working well with young players. He has a history of building a good rapport with fans. His failing seem to be an inability to manage a bloated squad and seemingly worked better with more limitations. If I was a betting man Roy will be gone within 48 hours and Cooper in place by the weekend.

If Parish is sticking with Roy he needs to come out and give him his public backing as the uncertainty is causing a rift in the fan base. Although most fans want Roy gone if Parish is going to stick by him then he needs to have the courage of his conviction and end the gossip and draw a line in the sand that Roy is his man.