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 cannongilbert  29 Jan 24 11.55am |
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Just read that Blackburn are asking 25.000.000 so most probably goodbye. Of course the asking price is ridiculous, but Blackburn are trying to make the best of it. Good luck to them.
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doi209  Fighting for the weak and innocent... 29 Jan 24 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by XKudu
So frustrating that we always seem to dither and signpost other teams to the attributes of the player. Eze and Olise have both trebled in value so we have all the equity in the bank and we can’t fork out £23-25m for a player who might also double in value. Just bloody sign him. Edited by XKudu (29 Jan 2024 11.55am) Having a value doesn't give you money in the bank. It isn't crystallised. You may live in a house with a value of £500 000. This doesn't mean you can buy something for £500 000 ( unless you crystalise (sell) it and then you will have the money, but no house).
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monkey  Sittingbourne,Kent 29 Jan 24 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by doi209
Having a value doesn't give you money in the bank. It isn't crystallised. You may live in a house with a value of £500 000. This doesn't mean you can buy something for £500 000 ( unless you crystalise (sell) it and then you will have the money, but no house). I think you’re wrong there, you can re-mortgage Edited by monkey (29 Jan 2024 12.33pm)
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| doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 29 Jan 24 12.47pm |
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Originally posted by monkey
I think you’re wrong there, you can re-mortgage Edited by monkey (29 Jan 2024 12.33pm) Remortgage (crystalise) will give you capital but the remaining value in the house will be reduced by the same amount, if not more. A house is a defined asset, a footballer not so much. I've never heard of a footballer being remortgaged. Too much risk to be taken by the mortgager. Footballers value generally plummet after a certain age. Not so true for houses.
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| palace99 New Mills 29 Jan 24 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by doi209
Remortgage (crystalise) will give you capital but the remaining value in the house will be reduced by the same amount, if not more. A house is a defined asset, a footballer not so much. I've never heard of a footballer being remortgaged. Too much risk to be taken by the mortgager. Footballers value generally plummet after a certain age. Not so true for houses. Didn't Risdale and Leeds go down the mortgage route to finance new players and look how that turned out! In terms of Wharton he looks a great prospect but is he a nailed on starter now? This time last year we needed a CM. We bought a prospect from Germany, who has barely kicked a ball since.
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| XKudu The Midlands, England 29 Jan 24 1.39pm |
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I’m sure we have cash in the bank + a flexible bank loan facility which we can draw-down on and as a kind of security the bank takes in account business assets which include players values. In this respect Olise, Eze, Anderson and Guehi will be hugely important to our ability to buy new players easily. That little lot easily have a value of £200m
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| monkey Sittingbourne,Kent 29 Jan 24 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by doi209
Remortgage (crystalise) will give you capital but the remaining value in the house will be reduced by the same amount, if not more. A house is a defined asset, a footballer not so much. I've never heard of a footballer being remortgaged. Too much risk to be taken by the mortgager. Footballers value generally plummet after a certain age. Not so true for houses. No, but you was the one who started comparing them to houses Edited by monkey (29 Jan 2024 1.57pm)
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| CpfcWeTrust1 29 Jan 24 3.07pm |
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I expect the issue is more a case of them wanting him loaned back for the rest of the season. Where as id summise we need somebody to come in and play for the rest of the season. £25 Mill is also a lot for a 19 year old who has a possibility of being decent in the premiership. I don't think Palace can afford to chuck that money at someone who might not work out and especially with Roy at the helm whom has an aversion to playing anybody below a certain age.
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beak Online  croydon 29 Jan 24 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by monkey
I think you’re wrong there, you can re-mortgage Edited by monkey (29 Jan 2024 12.33pm) [Link] ...or run around without a dwelling of any kind.
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| DenTyler Sidcup 29 Jan 24 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by CpfcWeTrust1
I expect the issue is more a case of them wanting him loaned back for the rest of the season. Where as id summise we need somebody to come in and play for the rest of the season. £25 Mill is also a lot for a 19 year old who has a possibility of being decent in the premiership. I don't think Palace can afford to chuck that money at someone who might not work out and especially with Roy at the helm whom has an aversion to playing anybody below a certain age. Question. The fee of £25 mil is a lot for a 19 year old. But what if he turns out to be another Olise, CD, Eze or Guehi. Then £25 mil looks a bargain. This is the thin line/punt the likes of Brighton have been taking and done so well with. Our buys over the last couple of years have been up there with brightons in terms of how much value the players have gone up, but have not realised this increase as we have not sold any of them. Of course he could also turnout to be a complete flop and not worth £10 mil.
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| taylors lovechild 29 Jan 24 3.59pm |
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Nixon reporting we have upped our offer to £22m [Link] Some of the biggest deals of recent times have involved deep-lying playmakers (eg Rice), so if he lives up to the hype he could be a huge coup. If he's just good then we still have a long-term squad investment. The only thing is that it doesn't sound like he's perhaps completely reliable defensively, which could be an issue in him playing alongside Lerma.
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| CpfcWeTrust1 29 Jan 24 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by DenTyler
Question. The fee of £25 mil is a lot for a 19 year old. But what if he turns out to be another Olise, CD, Eze or Guehi. Then £25 mil looks a bargain. This is the thin line/punt the likes of Brighton have been taking and done so well with. Our buys over the last couple of years have been up there with brightons in terms of how much value the players have gone up, but have not realised this increase as we have not sold any of them. Of course he could also turnout to be a complete flop and not worth £10 mil. I'm all for buying him but it's easy for me as I'm not spending it ha! I expect he's a good addition once Roy's retired. I think having all the youngsters not getting game time under him is a bit depressing for the likes of Ahameda and Franca (adding all the ones out on loan and academy members also.)
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