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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 20 Feb 24 9.28am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Pretty sure we would have lost this game with DH between the sticks.
Again, corner our downfall. With most of our players really doing no defending, why not put two of them near the posts?

not sure how you can say that, Sam was clearly at fault with their goal and generally looks uncomfortable at corners. If DH had conceded that goal he would have got loads of abuse. Not that dissimilar to Arsenal's 2nd goal the other week.

I like SJ, but think he is quite similar to DH in that they are both good shot stoppers but suspect at crosses, as our many goalies these days

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Feb 24 10.10am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

not sure how you can say that, Sam was clearly at fault with their goal and generally looks uncomfortable at corners. If DH had conceded that goal he would have got loads of abuse. Not that dissimilar to Arsenal's 2nd goal the other week.

I like SJ, but think he is quite similar to DH in that they are both good shot stoppers but suspect at crosses, as our many goalies these days


I may be wrong. but I get the impression that keepers aren't getting the same level of protection from the refs that they got previously. in recent seasons you only had to touch a keeper and it was a foul. With refs allowing a bit more contact in tackles etc., attackers can now put keepers under real pressure at corners to prevent them from coming out to claim the ball.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 20 Feb 24 10.41am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Long may Sam continue as our first choice keeper.
He is better than Pickford and should be Southgate's no.1.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 20 Feb 24 11.00am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


I may be wrong. but I get the impression that keepers aren't getting the same level of protection from the refs that they got previously. in recent seasons you only had to touch a keeper and it was a foul. With refs allowing a bit more contact in tackles etc., attackers can now put keepers under real pressure at corners to prevent them from coming out to claim the ball.

I agree with you doombear, keepers are being blocked out in corners big time nowadays. I read an article recently, unfortunately I can't remember the details, but it suggested that there is a strategic science developing around the whole area of blocking or generally causing chaos in the box in the build up to a corner kick.

 


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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 20 Feb 24 12.43pm Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

The staff except for Roy H. obviously regard Sam J. as the better goalie of the two (like most fans) otherwise Dean Henderson would have played yesterday.

 

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View Houston Eagle's Profile Houston Eagle Flag Houston 20 Feb 24 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

That was our best defensive display in a long time! Johnstone and Ward were key reasons we didn’t crumble like a cheap suit. There was cohesion and leadership on display!

Interested to see how the new man sets us up against Burnley.

 

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View Game of two halves's Profile Game of two halves Flag Bromley 25 Feb 24 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Game of two halves Add Game of two halves as a friend

Sam clearly inspires confidence with our players showing confidence in passing to him. We look like a team rather than a disjointed collection. Our negative GD will start dropping and could give us a higher position come end of season. I think Paddy made the Sam return happen. Don’t assume it was Roy wanting Henderson, he refused to keep picking VG, who made the promise to VG to be automatic starter?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 24 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I feel more comfortable with Johnstone in goal than Henderson.

I recall hearing,probably about 4 years ago, that Johnstone split opinions amongst the supporters at WBA and that he still had to win some of them over.
Johnstone was manager Darren Moore's first signing at WBA.I believe the deal was £6 Mill rising to £10 Mill but this could be incorrect.


Edited by Willo (25 Feb 2024 10.59pm)

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 26 Feb 24 8.52am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I agree with you doombear, keepers are being blocked out in corners big time nowadays. I read an article recently, unfortunately I can't remember the details, but it suggested that there is a strategic science developing around the whole area of blocking or generally causing chaos in the box in the build up to a corner kick .

I’m not sure about strategic science, but anyone who was around when the Wimbledon crazy gang were in their prime will tell you they knew how to reak havoc at corners, basically kick, elbow, barge, block, anything that moves, thankfully we bought two of them in Andy Thorn and Eric the Ninja and we became pretty dangerous at corners ourselves

 


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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 26 Feb 24 10.12am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I agree with you doombear, keepers are being blocked out in corners big time nowadays. I read an article recently, unfortunately I can't remember the details, but it suggested that there is a strategic science developing around the whole area of blocking or generally causing chaos in the box in the build up to a corner kick.

not sure if it's a science, but just common sense. Putting a man in front of the keeper will restrict his movement, especially for a near post corner, and no keeper likes a man next to him, so this can also have an effect.

The other tactic that many other teams use is having blockers. Liverpool showed this yesterday (they have been doing it for years BTW), but the idiot started in an offside position. Van Dijk wins loads of headers partly as his team mates try and get him a bit of space. He scored like this at Selhurst a few years ago when Andersen, his marker, was blocked.
Arsenal also like blockers and they are the highest scorers from set pieces this season

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Feb 24 10.37am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Funny how the fans could see who the better keeper is but our management couldn't.
I haven't seen on here or spoken to any fan that thought Henderson should start over Johnstone.

 


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View VinceHilaire's Profile VinceHilaire Flag London 26 Feb 24 11.58am Send a Private Message to VinceHilaire Add VinceHilaire as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Funny how the fans could see who the better keeper is but our management couldn't.
I haven't seen on here or spoken to any fan that thought Henderson should start over Johnstone.

I think the bigger picture is the £20m we spent on him. DF always seems to be a very shrewd guy. That money could definitely been spent elsewhere!

 

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