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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Feb 24 5.05pm
Originally posted by doombear He's brought in TWO as I understand it (might that be one for attack and one for defence?) Probably a set piece taker coach and a tactical set piece coach but it could be anything really. There may even be a throw-in coach - and we could do with that too. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Feb 24 5.05pm

Originally posted by doombear

He's brought in TWO as I understand it (might that be one for attack and one for defence?)

Probably a set piece taker coach and a tactical set piece coach but it could be anything really. There may even be a throw-in coach - and we could do with that too.

Red and Blue Army!

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 26 Feb 24 5.15pm
I think the issue with Edouard is his play rather than his goals. He can definitely score, and I believe with minutes his all round game can significantly improve. Especially in a side that attacks. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I think the issue with Edouard is his play rather than his goals. He can definitely score, and I believe with minutes his all round game can significantly improve. Especially in a side that attacks.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Uphill Bedford 26 Feb 24 5.17pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I predict that under OG we will score more goals and create more chances. Assuming this happens then I think we can assess Eddie more fairly. Until now our strikers live on scraps. That in a nutshell. All strikers we've had since Murray have struggled because we haven't had a creative midfield. Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders
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Bedford 26 Feb 24 5.17pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I predict that under OG we will score more goals and create more chances. Assuming this happens then I think we can assess Eddie more fairly. Until now our strikers live on scraps.

That in a nutshell.
All strikers we've had since Murray have struggled because we haven't had a creative midfield.

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

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Uphill Bedford 26 Feb 24 5.24pm
Accept that Mateta has improved from a low base. His energy makes Edouard look sluggish. Trouble is he needs coaching in heading. Benteke at least contributed some good defensive headers even if his scoring record collapsed when we had no Cabaye or any creative midfield. Hopefully the advent of Wharton will correct this and with a raiding Munoz, ala Van Arnhoult, he and Edouard will get better crosses. But they both need to improve in the air. Of the two I think Edouard is technically the better player.
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Bedford 26 Feb 24 5.24pm

Accept that Mateta has improved from a low base. His energy makes Edouard look sluggish.

Trouble is he needs coaching in heading. Benteke at least contributed some good defensive headers even if his scoring record collapsed when we had no Cabaye or any creative midfield.

Hopefully the advent of Wharton will correct this and with a raiding Munoz, ala Van Arnhoult, he and Edouard will get better crosses. But they both need to improve in the air. Of the two I think Edouard is technically the better player.

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aashman12 26 Feb 24 5.40pm
Originally posted by PatrickA To try and be fair the position of striker is one of the most difficult to recruit and in my 50 plus years of supporting Palace we’ve had our share of duds. Langley, Aylott, McCullough, Mahoney, Possee, Easter etc. spring to mind. We even experimented with a centre half, Coleman, as a striker. The good ones you could count on one hand - Bright, Wright, Johnson and Murray. Others have had limited success -Queen, Swindlehurst, Walsh, Bourne and Shipperly. So on to Edouard. To my mind he’s not the answer to our striking needs. There have been spells where he has scored a few goals in batches and some extrapolate this to suggest that he’s a 15 goal a season striker. Problem is , it never happens and is unlikely to. How many on here would offer him a new 3 year contract? In all his time here I don’t think I’ve ever seen him outjump , outmuscle or outrun a defender. His control of the ball is decent (if not under pressure) and on occasions he’s a calm finisher but this almost feels like damning him with faint praise because of the other shortcomings in his game. I’ve more or less given up on the idea of a 15-20 goal a season striker for us, at least in the Premier League, and would like us to to have a range of options to score from, e.g from midfield, the flanks, corners and set pieces. It’s evident that for all their flamboyant play, Arsenal score a lot of goals from corners. Missed out freedman, morrison and Armstrong
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26 Feb 24 5.40pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

To try and be fair the position of striker is one of the most difficult to recruit and in my 50 plus years of supporting Palace we’ve had our share of duds.
Langley, Aylott, McCullough, Mahoney, Possee, Easter etc. spring to mind.
We even experimented with a centre half, Coleman, as a striker.
The good ones you could count on one hand - Bright, Wright, Johnson and Murray.
Others have had limited success -Queen, Swindlehurst, Walsh, Bourne and Shipperly.

So on to Edouard.
To my mind he’s not the answer to our striking needs.
There have been spells where he has scored a few goals in batches and some extrapolate this to suggest that he’s a 15 goal a season striker.
Problem is , it never happens and is unlikely to.
How many on here would offer him a new 3 year contract?
In all his time here I don’t think I’ve ever seen him outjump , outmuscle or outrun a defender.
His control of the ball is decent (if not under pressure) and on occasions he’s a calm finisher but this almost feels like damning him with faint praise because of the other shortcomings in his game.

I’ve more or less given up on the idea of a 15-20 goal a season striker for us, at least in the Premier League, and would like us to to have a range of options to score from, e.g from midfield, the flanks, corners and set pieces.
It’s evident that for all their flamboyant play, Arsenal score a lot of goals from corners.

Missed out freedman, morrison and Armstrong

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PatrickA London 26 Feb 24 5.53pm
Fair comment, at least in relation to Armstrong.
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London 26 Feb 24 5.53pm

Fair comment, at least in relation to Armstrong.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 6.31pm
Originally posted by Uphill That in a nutshell. All strikers we've had since Murray have struggled because we haven't had a creative midfield. What is Eze then, Left Back “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 6.31pm

Originally posted by Uphill

That in a nutshell.
All strikers we've had since Murray have struggled because we haven't had a creative midfield.

What is Eze then, Left Back

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 6.38pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad What is Eze then, Left Back If the run is made Eze will find it, but Edouard is suffering from Bentekeitis, a illness sadly there is no cure for, Symptom's include, Rigidness, facial nonunderstanding and lack of awareness “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 6.38pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

What is Eze then, Left Back

If the run is made Eze will find it, but Edouard is suffering from
Bentekeitis, a illness sadly there is no cure for, Symptom's include, Rigidness, facial nonunderstanding and lack of awareness

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 26 Feb 24 6.48pm
Originally posted by aashman12 Missed out freedman, morrison and Armstrong Not to mention Johnny Byrne. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by aashman12

Missed out freedman, morrison and Armstrong

Not to mention Johnny Byrne.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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PatrickA London 26 Feb 24 6.57pm
Now he was just before my time, and I only saw him once in a testimonial/friendly. He was heavily overweight but still had impeccable touch and control of the ball.
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Now he was just before my time, and I only saw him once in a testimonial/friendly.
He was heavily overweight but still had impeccable touch and control of the ball.

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Casual Orpington 26 Feb 24 7.27pm
Originally posted by lagoseagle Overweight and lazy. Bad attitude. Bye bye in the summer. I agree he looks lazy and with a bad attitude, but I know a personal trainer (owns a boxing gym in Beckenham) who was training him , after Palace training last season, to improve his fitness. That doesn’t sound like someone with a bad attitude, maybe says a bit about the lack of fitness he was getting in training ? Think Glasner needs to up all of their fitness/endurance, hopefully stop all the late goals.
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Orpington 26 Feb 24 7.27pm

Originally posted by lagoseagle

Overweight and lazy. Bad attitude. Bye bye in the summer.

I agree he looks lazy and with a bad attitude, but I know a personal trainer (owns a boxing gym in Beckenham) who was training him , after Palace training last season, to improve his fitness.
That doesn’t sound like someone with a bad attitude, maybe says a bit about the lack of fitness he was getting in training ?
Think Glasner needs to up all of their fitness/endurance, hopefully stop all the late goals.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 9.02pm
Originally posted by Casual I agree he looks lazy and with a bad attitude, but I know a personal trainer (owns a boxing gym in Beckenham) who was training him , after Palace training last season, to improve his fitness. That doesn’t sound like someone with a bad attitude, maybe says a bit about the lack of fitness he was getting in training ? Think Glasner needs to up all of their fitness/endurance, hopefully stop all the late goals. Maybe Boxing is his forte “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 26 Feb 24 9.02pm

Originally posted by Casual

Maybe Boxing is his forte

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