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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 05 Feb 24 1.42pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

If Roy was going to go, he would be gone by now. So I think it is fair to say he will be in charge against Chelsea.

From what has been said in various media outlets yesterday and today it’s because a replacement is not available. Reading between the lines that rules out Potter and cooper as there is nothing stopping them coming which means they don’t want it. That will be the 2nd time cooper has turned us down and if that is the case he can do one and SP should not give him a third chance to turn us down in the future.

There must be a real issue behind the scenes that is putting a manger off. Let’s face it that can only be the reason Roy stayed on for this year. That is a real worry going forwards.

The biggest worry though is Roy is not going to change. He is probably going to be even more pig headed in his beliefs. It is going to be more of the same. Henderson in goal, old faithful ‘experienced’ pro’s and RoyBall to the max.

We are going to suffer. It is going to be a long few months. We can only hope that we get a few games out of Eze and Olise and that Wharton and Munoz add something.

Dear lord I fear this is going to be a hard watch.

 

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View Houston Eagle's Profile Houston Eagle Online Flag Houston 05 Feb 24 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

Our current plight is a mixture of bad luck and bad management but that is all history now! What we do have in our favor today is points in the bag so that gives us an advantage and what we don’t have is a confidence and momentum. Getting humiliated by Arsenal or Brighton in the end means nothing but frustration anger and discord. We still only need to win 4 or so games to save our skins!

Win the winnable and we can stay at the big table! Lose and as everyone would agree we deserve to be taught a lesson and start again next year with a new manager and team in the championship.

 

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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 05 Feb 24 2.04pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Our current plight is a mixture of bad luck and bad management but that is all history now! What we do have in our favor today is points in the bag so that gives us an advantage and what we don’t have is a confidence and momentum. Getting humiliated by Arsenal or Brighton in the end means nothing but frustration anger and discord. We still only need to win 4 or so games to save our skins!

Win the winnable and we can stay at the big table! Lose and as everyone would agree we deserve to be taught a lesson and start again next year with a new manager and team in the championship.

Agreed. I put a post up yesterday regarding what I think we will get in terms of points. I had it as 12 pts from 2 wins and some draws.
What we need is a backs to the wall approach. Every game is now a cup final.

 

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Norfolk 05 Feb 24 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

Originally posted by DenTyler

....What we need is a backs to the wall approach. Every game is now a cup final.

That's true, but won't happen if he's lost the dressing room, which it appears he has.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 05 Feb 24 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Win the winnable and we can stay at the big table! Lose and as everyone would agree we deserve to be taught a lesson and start again next year with a new manager and team in the championship.

After the Sheff Utd game which was won solely by Eze and Olise I am struggling now to find with whom these 'winnable' matches are.

The manager has one, and only one, plan and is incapable of changing or adapting according to the opposition.

Our one hope appears to be that our two stars return in time to win the 3 or 4 matches to ensure survival. Failing that only points reductions for Forest and Everton will save us.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 05 Feb 24 2.18pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by DenTyler

If Roy was going to go, he would be gone by now. So I think it is fair to say he will be in charge against Chelsea.

From what has been said in various media outlets yesterday and today it’s because a replacement is not available. Reading between the lines that rules out Potter and cooper as there is nothing stopping them coming which means they don’t want it. That will be the 2nd time cooper has turned us down and if that is the case he can do one and SP should not give him a third chance to turn us down in the future.

There must be a real issue behind the scenes that is putting a manger off. Let’s face it that can only be the reason Roy stayed on for this year. That is a real worry going forwards.

The biggest worry though is Roy is not going to change. He is probably going to be even more pig headed in his beliefs. It is going to be more of the same. Henderson in goal, old faithful ‘experienced’ pro’s and RoyBall to the max.

We are going to suffer. It is going to be a long few months. We can only hope that we get a few games out of Eze and Olise and that Wharton and Munoz add something.

Dear lord I fear this is going to be a hard watch.

I wouldn't have thought that there is anything crazy going on behind the scenes.

But its worth remembering that most sacked managers carry on getting paid by their former club until they start a new job. So the mentioned potter and cooper are getting paid for doing sweet FA.

Taking this job at the moment is a bit of a risk. So in reality it rules out any first choice mangers, plus anyone at the top of hte championship.

So in reality you are looking at 'specialist' end of season managers, Roy, Fat Sam etc. Or someone for who the prem is such a step up they wouldn't say no.

I suspect that's a big part of why Roy is still at hte helm, because SP doesn't really have anything better.

 

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View Houston Eagle's Profile Houston Eagle Online Flag Houston 05 Feb 24 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

15 games to go and potentially only 12 points to get. Despite the doom and gloom that hangs over the club that is exactly in line with our current form!

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 05 Feb 24 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Back to the drawing board for Mr Parish as Neil Warnock has become manager of Aberdeen so the avenue of employing an experienced replacement for Roy Hodgson is closed.

If it is said that currently unemployed managers are reluctant to come to Palace, quite frankly, I can't believe any young upcoming manager in lower divisions couldn't do a better job of utilising our existing talent, employ sensible tactics and restore the confidence of our demoralised players.

 


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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 05 Feb 24 2.43pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

I find it hard to believe that there is not a better manager out there who looks at a squad including well-established players like Johnstone, Guehi, Andersen, Doucoure, Lerma, Olise, Eze, decent players like Ayew, Mitchell and Munoz along with promising youngsters in Franca, Wharton, Rak0-Sakyi and Ozoh and not think "If I keep this team up and even if we lose one or two we have money to buy more so 2024/25 looks promising"

Parish just doesn't want to have to pay compensation to another club as well as giving Hodgson his undeserved golden parachute

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 05 Feb 24 2.56pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

The way I see Roys management now is that he has found a way that works. and if that isn't working, or available, he attempts to shut up shop.
His way of success is to use a system built around Eze and Olise who've both recently come off long term injuries, but he still relies on them. Now they're out, he's not looking for another way to succeed, he trys to get by until he can utilise them again.

This is how it looks like from over here. We have players that were bought in to mitigate this or avoid these situations; Franca being the obvious example. Ozoh another. He only ever uses them as a last resort option, not a rotational or Plan B. Shrieks of bad management, and a disregard for players welfare - on and off the pitch.

 


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View DenTyler's Profile DenTyler Flag Sidcup 05 Feb 24 3.27pm Send a Private Message to DenTyler Add DenTyler as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Back to the drawing board for Mr Parish as Neil Warnock has become manager of Aberdeen so the avenue of employing an experienced replacement for Roy Hodgson is closed.

If it is said that currently unemployed managers are reluctant to come to Palace, quite frankly, I can't believe any young upcoming manager in lower divisions couldn't do a better job of utilising our existing talent, employ sensible tactics and restore the confidence of our demoralised players.

100% agree. Palace could easily be a springboard for an up and coming manager. Just look at Gary O’Neil and rob Andrew’s both of whom I would have loved to see at Palace. Unfortunately I still think it will be dour Roy unless we get a beating from Everton (with Olise and Eze out Chelsea is a free hit for him).

I just hope the players pull a rabbit out the hat themselves because it won’t be Roy’s doing. If nothing else there are a few with points to prove and a couple of new boys who I hope the fun sponge doesn’t ruin with his negative RoyBall ways.

Somebody posted earlier an article on Robert Carlos and how the fun sponge was so bad to work with he left Inter to save his international career. Now there is a man who knows a thing or 2 about the way the game should be played.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Feb 24 3.35pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Are we still pushing for a Top Ten finish ?

Asking for a friend

 


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