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 eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Jul 23 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Both are around same age 23-24 yet Rice has played over 200 games in top flight and by end of this year 50 senior England caps that is some achievement. Doucoure has had what 10 caps for Mali not very impressive is it. In time we will see but currently Rice is far better player and if people are honest with choice out of the two they would go with Rice at this stage. I don't think we will get much Palace news for a while it's the same every season if we do anything it's Aug time more towards the end of transfer window. Well, you are, of course entitled to your opinion. I didn't say that CD was as good as Rice, i said that the EPL stats for last season showed that DC came a close 2nd to Rice. The rest of your post, i agree with, i was commenting on the fact that click-bait had L'pool wanting DC to replace Fabinho & if he was going for a reported £40m, then L'pool should cough up £90m for DC & lets face it, we've been shafted by them a few times. Payback.
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NEILLO  Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Jul 23 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Both are around same age 23-24 yet Rice has played over 200 games in top flight and by end of this year 50 senior England caps that is some achievement. Doucoure has had what 10 caps for Mali not very impressive is it. In time we will see but currently Rice is far better player and if people are honest with choice out of the two they would go with Rice at this stage. I don't think we will get much Palace news for a while it's the same every season if we do anything it's Aug time more towards the end of transfer window. I think you could make a comparison with Brighton’s Caicedo and they are asking stupid money for him. So Palace should do similar in my view
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grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 18 Jul 23 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I think you could make a comparison with Brighton’s Caicedo and they are asking stupid money for him. So Palace should do similar in my view
Caicedo is only 21 and already played over 30 times for his senior national team Ecuador. He has achieved more then Doucoure plus almost 3 years younger so if you want to use a middle ground Rice was 105m the price for Caicedo appears to be 70m so 40-50m would be max for Doucoure. Values are not stupid it's the price a club puts out and if someone will pay it that is the value. Stupid would be Palace claiming they wanted 80m+ for Zaha that worked out well didn't it 0 offers now he is leaving on a free.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Jul 23 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Caicedo is only 21 and already played over 30 times for his senior national team Ecuador. He has achieved more then Doucoure plus almost 3 years younger so if you want to use a middle ground Rice was 105m the price for Caicedo appears to be 70m so 40-50m would be max for Doucoure. Values are not stupid it's the price a club puts out and if someone will pay it that is the value. Stupid would be Palace claiming they wanted 80m+ for Zaha that worked out well didn't it 0 offers now he is leaving on a free. Doucoure is 23 and has 15 caps. Similar age and I don’t see that Caicedo has achieved much more than Doucoure but I accept he’s the better known player. The fee bandied around in the media is anything between £70m plus add ons and £100m. I call that stupid money in the same way I thought the fee that Chelsea paid for Cucurella was stupid. Are you telling me he’s been value for money ? Every player is available at a price and all I’m saying is we should only sell at an inflated fee.
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| Spiderman Horsham 19 Jul 23 8.05am |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Doucoure is 23 and has 15 caps. Similar age and I don’t see that Caicedo has achieved much more than Doucoure but I accept he’s the better known player. The fee bandied around in the media is anything between £70m plus add ons and £100m. I call that stupid money in the same way I thought the fee that Chelsea paid for Cucurella was stupid. Are you telling me he’s been value for money ? Every player is available at a price and all I’m saying is we should only sell at an inflated fee. Totally agree
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Jul 23 8.11am |
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Have Int'l caps become the single barometer for a player? As someone rightly mentioned Cucurella went for circa or even north of £60mil and he has 1 cap for Spain. Doucoure beat a lot of similar type players statistically last season and is integral to our team, we don't have an abundance of playing resource as others might. Therefore any comparison to the likes of Caicedo etc. are surely correct and his price should reflect this if the likes of L'pool are interested. Is it really much of a debate or is Mort still playing a stereotype character to spark conversation on the forum?
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 19 Jul 23 8.43am |
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Realistically we only need two players, although we would like more, we need Wilf out, Mateta or Edouard moved on, then use the 400/500k a week saving to fund a wilf replacement, Tresor,Clarke or Hudson odoi, and a mobile CF, Che Adams would be fine, if we sell a player just replace with the money.
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| Jacey Online 19 Jul 23 8.49am |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Realistically we only need two players, although we would like more, we need Wilf out, Mateta or Edouard moved on, then use the 400/500k a week saving to fund a wilf replacement, Tresor,Clarke or Hudson odoi, and a mobile CF, Che Adams would be fine, if we sell a player just replace with the money. Totally agree,although in the case of Doucoure,rather surprised that we would even consider selling.and not at such a low price:
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 19 Jul 23 9.24am |
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A fee in the region of £35m was definitely NOT what I had in mind for Doucoure. At that price it looks like we are happy to sell, which I am hoping we are not.
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 19 Jul 23 9.26am |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Totally agree,although in the case of Doucoure,rather surprised that we would even consider selling.and not at such a low price: Agreed, if he is going to go, be like the spammers and put your foot down, 90m or do one.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 19 Jul 23 9.34am |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Totally agree,although in the case of Doucoure,rather surprised that we would even consider selling.and not at such a low price:
Edited by doombear (19 Jul 2023 9.35am)
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 19 Jul 23 9.41am |
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Originally posted by doombear
Edited by doombear (19 Jul 2023 9.35am) You ain't wrong there DB. At the bottom of the home page are 10 'click-bait' stories, 7(seven) of them are about DC & L'pool & that's just this morning.
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