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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Sep 23 11.34am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Just confirmation here, though we probably could have guessed this, that there is a new release clause in his contract which becomes active next summer. Doesn't say how much it is but you'd hope £70m+.

I think we can all expect him to probably move on then which is fine, I just hope the release clause stipulates that it has to be before a certain date so we have time to reinvest any funds.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Sep 23 11.43am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Just confirmation here, though we probably could have guessed this, that there is a new release clause in his contract which becomes active next summer. Doesn't say how much it is but you'd hope £70m+.

I think we can all expect him to probably move on then which is fine, I just hope the release clause stipulates that it has to be before a certain date so we have time to reinvest any funds.

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Thanks Canterbury.

I still feel resigned to the fact that we won't be hanging on to this team forever. That will, for me anyway, reflect some success however.

What I am hopeful for, is that this represents a step up for us as a club beyond merely surviving relegation each year. Not a huge step, but a necessary and positive one.

What is important going forward is that we continue in the same vain. The summer transfer window was hardly representative of all our wildest dreams however even the likes of Henderson and Franca do represent we are trying to bring in young, exciting talent to hopefully bring success for us albeit before they may eventually leave for the top. It looks as though we're planning for that inevitability but ensuring we receive the financial compensation to start the process again.

COYP and Olise is ours for now.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 06 Sep 23 12.15pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

In the bigger scheme of things, Olise having a release clause makes little difference to us, so long as it is now set somewhere near, or above, market value. I'd imagine that's the tricky bit to get right, as you don't know how the market or the player will develop, and you can't set the figure at a silly amount, or the player won't sign the contract.

We would probably have sold Olise in the next year or two anyway. We are signing good young players to sell at a profit, not to build a team around for the longer term. Eze doesn't have a release clause (that we know of), but he still has a price, as do they all.

The only issue with a release clause is that the timing of the sale is out of our hands. Mind you, with player power and freedom of contract, it's not like we ever have full control over when someone leaves anyway.

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Sep 23 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Thanks Canterbury.

I still feel resigned to the fact that we won't be hanging on to this team forever. That will, for me anyway, reflect some success however.

What I am hopeful for, is that this represents a step up for us as a club beyond merely surviving relegation each year. Not a huge step, but a necessary and positive one.

What is important going forward is that we continue in the same vain. The summer transfer window was hardly representative of all our wildest dreams however even the likes of Henderson and Franca do represent we are trying to bring in young, exciting talent to hopefully bring success for us albeit before they may eventually leave for the top. It looks as though we're planning for that inevitability but ensuring we receive the financial compensation to start the process again.

COYP and Olise is ours for now.

Completely agree with this, was disappointed with the window but it's gone now and no point harping on about it (until Feb 1st).

The most important thing is for the club to recognise that we are probably going to lose a few of these key players next summer, especially if Eze doesn't sign a new deal, and to get in front of the situation.

They did brilliantly well recruiting Olise, Eze, Guehi and Andersen who must be worth £200m+ between them now. So use the majority of that money to replace them and strengthen other areas.

 


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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Sep 23 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

In the bigger scheme of things, Olise having a release clause makes little difference to us, so long as it is now set somewhere near, or above, market value. I'd imagine that's the tricky bit to get right, as you don't know how the market or the player will develop, and you can't set the figure at a silly amount, or the player won't sign the contract.

We would probably have sold Olise in the next year or two anyway. We are signing good young players to sell at a profit, not to build a team around for the longer term. Eze doesn't have a release clause (that we know of), but he still has a price, as do they all.

The only issue with a release clause is that the timing of the sale is out of our hands. Mind you, with player power and freedom of contract, it's not like we ever have full control over when someone leaves anyway.


This was why I mentioned about hopefully there's a window for the release clause to be active, rather than us potentially losing him a week from the end of the window.

Although I suspect Rak-Sakyi is likely to be the contingency plan so if he develops well this season it may not be the end of the world regardless.

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 06 Sep 23 2.15pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


This was why I mentioned about hopefully there's a window for the release clause to be active, rather than us potentially losing him a week from the end of the window.

Although I suspect Rak-Sakyi is likely to be the contingency plan so if he develops well this season it may not be the end of the world regardless.

You'd hope that would be a fair compromise.

You'd also hope that we looking for Eze/Olise replacements that we can get in, and bed in before their inevitable departure

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 06 Sep 23 3.43pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Is this what the future looks like?
We discover/ develop a talent and feel fortunate to have them in our team for a season or two?
We wave them off grateful that the ‘bigger’ club have made a ‘generous’ offer and been kind enough to give us enough notice to endeavour to buy a replacement.
I hope we can be a bit more ambitious while recognising there may be the occasional exception where it suits us and the buying club (e.g AWB).
I wouldn’t want to see us sell every time a big club make an offer.
I was reassured by Parish’s comments in Sunday’s programme where he was acclaiming our resolve to hold onto our players.
We are not Brighton and don’t believe it’s our objective to sell every talent.
Man City are supposedly already eyeing up teenager Ferguson and Mitoma.
Seems excessive as they’ve just bought Doku, already have Grealish , Foden , Silva , Alvarez and Haaland .
And Pep still moans about how they’re hard done by….

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 06 Sep 23 4.15pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Is this what the future looks like?
We discover/ develop a talent and feel fortunate to have them in our team for a season or two?
We wave them off grateful that the ‘bigger’ club have made a ‘generous’ offer and been kind enough to give us enough notice to endeavour to buy a replacement.
I hope we can be a bit more ambitious while recognising there may be the occasional exception where it suits us and the buying club (e.g AWB).
I wouldn’t want to see us sell every time a big club make an offer.
I was reassured by Parish’s comments in Sunday’s programme where he was acclaiming our resolve to hold onto our players.
We are not Brighton and don’t believe it’s our objective to sell every talent.
Man City are supposedly already eyeing up teenager Ferguson and Mitoma.
Seems excessive as they’ve just bought Doku, already have Grealish , Foden , Silva , Alvarez and Haaland .
And Pep still moans about how they’re hard done by….

Way of the world, I'm afraid. American sports take steps to prevent boring monopolies by giving the lowest finishing team the first pick of the draft (i.e. summer recruitment), but we over here have never had that sort of check and balance system in over 150 years of football. It's an open market system and (without getting all Marxist about it) that generally means the rich will get richer and the pecking order is hard to disrupt.

It wasn't quite as bad until freedom of contract. After that, players knew they held all the cards.

It was nice to hear Parish send a message to the bigger clubs, but he knows that (whatever sweet talking he has pulled off with Olise, and Zaha before him) it's ultimately not in his gift to compel Eze, Geuhi, Docoure et el to sign new contracts. As and when they approach the final two years of their contracts, if those lads want to play for bigger clubs, and if the bigger clubs want them, that is where they will end up.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 06 Sep 23 4.23pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Is this what the future looks like?
We discover/ develop a talent and feel fortunate to have them in our team for a season or two?
We wave them off grateful that the ‘bigger’ club have made a ‘generous’ offer and been kind enough to give us enough notice to endeavour to buy a replacement.
I hope we can be a bit more ambitious while recognising there may be the occasional exception where it suits us and the buying club (e.g AWB).
I wouldn’t want to see us sell every time a big club make an offer.
I was reassured by Parish’s comments in Sunday’s programme where he was acclaiming our resolve to hold onto our players.
We are not Brighton and don’t believe it’s our objective to sell every talent.
Man City are supposedly already eyeing up teenager Ferguson and Mitoma.
Seems excessive as they’ve just bought Doku, already have Grealish , Foden , Silva , Alvarez and Haaland .
And Pep still moans about how they’re hard done by….

Its what the present looks like for every team that buys decent players. Its only that we have only started doing it that we are now starting to get some interest.

Even the best teams in our league have players pining for Barca and Madrid.

but its not a case of getting bent over, its about selling the right players for the right money at the right time. Eze being a perfect example, if we cant get him to sign a new contract, we have to sell him next summer.

That alternative is you hold the guys to their contracts, get disinterested players, lose them for free and make ourselves a reputation for holding players hostage

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 06 Sep 23 5.04pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


This was why I mentioned about hopefully there's a window for the release clause to be active, rather than us potentially losing him a week from the end of the window.

Yeah, a cut-off date for the release clause would be best (and not that unusual I think, though I'm only basing that on media gossip about other players with such clauses).

It's not something we have much experience of at the palace. I can't think of the last Palace player to have a (known, reported) release clause?

 

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Olise must be glad he stayed put. Chelsea look a mess but the one position where I think they've looked ok is on the right wing with Sterling and Madueke. Maybe one day he could play more centrally, but I don't think so at the moment.

Hopefully he'll be back for Villa and he can remind us of why we're so glad he stayed!

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 06 Sep 23 5.12pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

…or you extend them as we did with Zaha, have just done with Olise and are reputedly trying to do with Eze.
Calvin Phillips can’t get near the Man City team, nor can Smith Rowe at Arsenal.
I suspect Nketiah will find himself out of the team once Jesus is fully fit.
Young players like Elliott, Carvalho and Jones all hoped to hold down places at Liverpool but are treated as squad fodder and Liverpool have just bought another 3 midfielders.
Who would want to join the basket case that is Chelsea where is some cases you’ve got three players competing for one position?
The grass is always greener goes the saying , and at least at Palace our better players will be guaranteed to play and be looked after.
If you just accept the ‘bigger’ clubs’ sense of entitlement that they can cherry pick players from the likes of Palace on a whim (provided the terms are met - which won’t present a problem to such clubs) then we will see Doucoure, Guehi, Anderson, Olise and Eze depart because it’s just accepted as the natural order of things which we can do nothing about.

 

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