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Croydon-Trucker 23 Jan 22 5.38pm
Originally posted by peterg I've been reading the comments by Liverpool supporters about the match report in the Guardian. Almost all think the penalty decision was a joke. At the match I saw Friend trying to justify his decision to the Palace players afterwards. Their expression said: You're having a laugh. It was a shocking performance by Friend all round, capped by one of the worst penalty decisions I have ever seen. Who can think of one that was worse? The one that was awarded to Scummerpool for a foul on Benteke .
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Originally posted by peterg

I've been reading the comments by Liverpool supporters about the match report in the Guardian. Almost all think the penalty decision was a joke. At the match I saw Friend trying to justify his decision to the Palace players afterwards. Their expression said: You're having a laugh. It was a shocking performance by Friend all round, capped by one of the worst penalty decisions I have ever seen. Who can think of one that was worse?

The one that was awarded to Scummerpool for a foul on Benteke .

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palace chick South Croydon 23 Jan 22 5.38pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Our best spell in the game seemed to me to coincide with when we moved to a 442 with Olise wide right and Shlupp wide left (where he looks far more comfortable). We had more width and looked dangerous, attacking with pace and purpose. For some reason we changed this and put on Ayew wide left and moved Schlupp inside again. Vieira has said he wishes to play 433 and when all the players are available this can work. However, with the players currently available I think there is an argument that 442 or 451 being the way to go. It gives us more numbers in midfield, more width and provides more service to the striker(s). Totally agree, pulling Schlup back into the middle was a strange decision. We were hurting them with him switched to left? Makes our midfield weak with him in the middle - strange decision. And of course the penalty decision completely screwed us. How VAR and then Friend gave that is beyond me. I always give referees support as it’s a hard job but now they have VAR and still get it wrong. Friend the new Clattenburg :-(
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South Croydon 23 Jan 22 5.38pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Our best spell in the game seemed to me to coincide with when we moved to a 442 with Olise wide right and Shlupp wide left (where he looks far more comfortable).
We had more width and looked dangerous, attacking with pace and purpose.
For some reason we changed this and put on Ayew wide left and moved Schlupp inside again.
Vieira has said he wishes to play 433 and when all the players are available this can work.
However, with the players currently available I think there is an argument that 442 or 451 being the way to go.
It gives us more numbers in midfield, more width and provides more service to the striker(s).

Totally agree, pulling Schlup back into the middle was a strange decision. We were hurting them with him switched to left? Makes our midfield weak with him in the middle - strange decision. And of course the penalty decision completely screwed us. How VAR and then Friend gave that is beyond me. I always give referees support as it’s a hard job but now they have VAR and still get it wrong. Friend the new Clattenburg :-(

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Putitout Oxford 23 Jan 22 5.41pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Notice how he tries a little flick with his foot to lob VG, but misses it because the er... the... umm.. the ball has run away from him? Then he shifts direction. Cheat, aided by what can only be corruption by this stage. I would forgive it if it were incompetence, but too many decisions in this game stacked against us. The game contained a number of decisions that were plain wrong. Three going against Palace, were so bad , only incompetence or cheating can explain them. An honest mistake is still a mistake., and if you keep making them it’s obvious you are out of your depth, and shouldn’t be doing the job. Games are being decided or ar least heavily influenced by these very dodgy decisions week in week out now. So what is it?
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Oxford 23 Jan 22 5.41pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Notice how he tries a little flick with his foot to lob VG, but misses it because the er... the... umm.. the ball has run away from him? Then he shifts direction.

Cheat, aided by what can only be corruption by this stage. I would forgive it if it were incompetence, but too many decisions in this game stacked against us.

The game contained a number of decisions that were plain wrong. Three going against Palace, were so bad , only incompetence or cheating can explain them. An honest mistake is still a mistake., and if you keep making them it’s obvious you are out of your depth, and shouldn’t be doing the job. Games are being decided or ar least heavily influenced by these very dodgy decisions week in week out now. So what is it?

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Sansbup Norfolk 23 Jan 22 5.44pm
Kevin Friend and/or Craig Pawson will be driving around in a new car this week.
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Sansbup

Norfolk 23 Jan 22 5.44pm

Kevin Friend and/or Craig Pawson will be driving around in a new car this week.

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southnorwoodhill 23 Jan 22 5.46pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Our best spell in the game seemed to me to coincide with when we moved to a 442 with Olise wide right and Shlupp wide left (where he looks far more comfortable). We had more width and looked dangerous, attacking with pace and purpose. For some reason we changed this and put on Ayew wide left and moved Schlupp inside again. Vieira has said he wishes to play 433 and when all the players are available this can work. However, with the players currently available I think there is an argument that 442 or 451 being the way to go. It gives us more numbers in midfield, more width and provides more service to the striker(s). Indeed. Two successive games and PV puts Schlupp centrally. One would have thought after today PV finally gets it - Schlupp is not, and never will be, a dominant holding central midfielder. Incidentally the 4-3-3 is looking dubious, particularly with the players selected to implement it. The old square peg round hole conundrum again.
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Originally posted by PatrickA

Our best spell in the game seemed to me to coincide with when we moved to a 442 with Olise wide right and Shlupp wide left (where he looks far more comfortable).
We had more width and looked dangerous, attacking with pace and purpose.
For some reason we changed this and put on Ayew wide left and moved Schlupp inside again.
Vieira has said he wishes to play 433 and when all the players are available this can work.
However, with the players currently available I think there is an argument that 442 or 451 being the way to go.
It gives us more numbers in midfield, more width and provides more service to the striker(s).

Indeed. Two successive games and PV puts Schlupp centrally. One would have thought after today PV finally gets it - Schlupp is not, and never will be, a dominant holding central midfielder. Incidentally the 4-3-3 is looking dubious, particularly with the players selected to implement it. The old square peg round hole conundrum again.

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steeleye20 Croydon 23 Jan 22 5.49pm
The referee and the VAR referees were looking for something that simply wasn't there. They are inventing ludicrous explanations to cover their tracks, over the offside as well. The ball has clearly gone from Jota's control and is going out of play. They are saying his ability to control the ball was impaired, but the ball had gone already.
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Croydon 23 Jan 22 5.49pm

The referee and the VAR referees were looking for something that simply wasn't there.

They are inventing ludicrous explanations to cover their tracks, over the offside as well.

The ball has clearly gone from Jota's control and is going out of play.

They are saying his ability to control the ball was impaired, but the ball had gone already.

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MrRobbo Purley 23 Jan 22 6.01pm
I just don't understand this making the ref go over to look at it again. Its basically his boss telling him to 'look at it again' If its a pen give it. If its 50/50 stick with the ref's original decision.
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MrRobbo

Purley 23 Jan 22 6.01pm

I just don't understand this making the ref go over to look at it again.

Its basically his boss telling him to 'look at it again'

If its a pen give it. If its 50/50 stick with the ref's original decision.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 23 Jan 22 6.05pm
The only formation we can play with what we have is 4-4-2, its so obvious, Schlupp, Hughes, Gallaher and Olise, Mateta and Eduoard up top with Ayew as the chande of striker and play longer, Andersen hitting these 50 yarders to the wings, wilf an option on return, wide or central. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 23 Jan 22 6.05pm

The only formation we can play with what we have is 4-4-2, its so obvious, Schlupp, Hughes, Gallaher and Olise, Mateta and Eduoard up top with Ayew as the chande of striker and play longer, Andersen hitting these 50 yarders to the wings, wilf an option on return, wide or central.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Putitout Oxford 23 Jan 22 6.09pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo I just don't understand this making the ref go over to look at it again. Its basically his boss telling him to 'look at it again' If its a pen give it. If its 50/50 stick with the ref's original decision.
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Putitout

Oxford 23 Jan 22 6.09pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I just don't understand this making the ref go over to look at it again.

Its basically his boss telling him to 'look at it again'

If its a pen give it. If its 50/50 stick with the ref's original decision.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Jan 22 6.20pm
Originally posted by peterg I've been reading the comments by Liverpool supporters about the match report in the Guardian. Almost all think the penalty decision was a joke. At the match I saw Friend trying to justify his decision to the Palace players afterwards. Their expression said: You're having a laugh. It was a shocking performance by Friend all round, capped by one of the worst penalty decisions I have ever seen. Who can think of one that was worse? I can. The one he gave against James McArthur when we lost 3-1 to Brighton a couple of years back.
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Originally posted by peterg

I can. The one he gave against James McArthur when we lost 3-1 to Brighton a couple of years back.

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andy p Warrington cheshire 23 Jan 22 6.48pm
forget the penalty,where were we in the first half hour,that is of a greater concearn..... stuck up here with a load of northern monkeys!
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Warrington cheshire 23 Jan 22 6.48pm

forget the penalty,where were we in the first half hour,that is of a greater concearn.....

stuck up here with a load of northern monkeys!

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Jan 22 7.05pm
Originally posted by slubglurge To be fair to Friend he didnt award a pen but when they are called to the monitor they always change the decision Why? He doesn’t have to. His whole performance was a disgrace , grinning as he left at half time. Seemed to be desperate to disallow our goal. If that performance is not corrupt I would hate to see a corrupt one
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Horsham 23 Jan 22 7.05pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

To be fair to Friend he didnt award a pen but when they are called to the monitor they always change the decision

Why? He doesn’t have to. His whole performance was a disgrace , grinning as he left at half time. Seemed to be desperate to disallow our goal.
If that performance is not corrupt I would hate to see a corrupt one

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