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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Feb 22 10.25am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Seems to me there is a lot of luck in football. You guys are drilling into real detail of individual players etc. If you look at the bigger picture Southampton, Brighton seem to have blossomed significantly this year. Fast on their heels are Villa and now Everton and Newcastle. All these, our peers, are cranking up the ante and seem to have sorted themselves out. We haven’t. Yet we can. For 30 minutes against Liverpool we literally ran rings around them then inexplicably just when we were looking like sinking them, we made 3 substitutions and lost thé impotence. So we can deliver and as a fan I sure hope we do.
I’m afraid I haven’t got the answers but the above teams are finding them. I just hope as a team we click in the very near future. We seem to have all the right ingredients now we need the right mix.

Absolutely...we are 2 years behind Brighton and Southampton in terms of developing our playing style.

Some patience is required here....Potter had fans calling for his head as recently as the end of last year when they were on a run of 11 games without a win. The Saints manager has presided over 2 0-9 defeats and not only kept his job but continues to oversee an incremental improvement in his team.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Feb 22 10.42am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Absolutely...we are 2 years behind Brighton and Southampton in terms of developing our playing style.

Some patience is required here....Potter had fans calling for his head as recently as the end of last year when they were on a run of 11 games without a win. The Saints manager has presided over 2 0-9 defeats and not only kept his job but continues to oversee an incremental improvement in his team.

Very much agree.

However, we could always revert to defending for our lives every 90mins and praying for a break away goal or two all the while providing adequate medical support for cardiac arrests.

I hope Vieira is given the time, of course that we stay safe, and we start to reap the rewards of a new footballing identity.

COYP

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Luarddd's Profile Luarddd Flag Redhill 14 Feb 22 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Luarddd Add Luarddd as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Hold on...I'm not saying I expect anything more from Eze at all. He's exactly where he should be after an injury like that...being slowly integrated back into the team. Eze is a cracking prospect...all I'm saying is that I don't think he's as good as Gallagher is for us right now.

And yeah, fair point about the system. Although he's played a few minutes now for Vieria's system and hasn't looked up to it.

Nothing poor about my post at all.

Hasn’t looked up to it , he’s showed glimpses of his former self and you can’t expect anymore so phrase it like you expect it not like you don’t

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 14 Feb 22 12.21pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

There’s no guarantee that Eze would have featured much more even if we didn’t have Gallagher. He only returned to training at the back end of last year.
Vieira has continually preached patience and indicated that it will take time for Eze to find form and fitness.
I suppose he’ll get another start v Stoke and hopefully he will show what he is capable of.
He’s a different type of player to Gallagher relying more on touch and skill than high energy and he certainly doesn’t have Gallagher’s tackling ability.
To play and flourish in a midfield 3 I think he really needs two holding players behind him to free him of some defensive responsibility.
Vieira has shown no sign of playing two holding midfield players, so it may require a tactical tweak to accommodate him.
Vieira has said he sees him as part of a front 3 on the left (where does that leave Wilf?) or as a number 10.
Personally I can’t see him as part of a front 3, but would like to see him given a go in a free role behind the striker.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 14 Feb 22 12.47pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic.

The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 14 Feb 22 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic.

The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle.

I'd go along with that.

 


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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Norfolk 14 Feb 22 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

What a bizarre thread!

You want to get rid of one of our two best players?

Weird.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 14 Feb 22 12.58pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

No Not wrong, 130 mins in an available 1170 mins, premier league games, you are not going to get match fit wit that

Lanzo . . .

Eze stats for this season are as follows(i was bored)

Available for 13 games since 20-11-21(U23 game was 6-11-21. 94 mins)
Started 3 games 8-1-22 v Millwall(64mins), 14-1-22 v Brighton(65mins), 5-2-22 v Hartlepool(71mins)

Come on as Sub 4 times 27-11-21 v Villa(60th min), 5-12-21 v Man Utd(84th min), 23-1-22 v Liverpool(69th min) & 9-2-22 v Norwich(80th min)

Unused sub 6 times 20-11-21 v Burnley, 30-11-21 v Leeds, 12-12-21 v Everton, 15-12-21 v Southampton, 1-1-22 v W Ham & 12-2-22 v Brentford.

1170 available mins, 278 mins played, 892 mins unused sub.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Feb 22 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic.

The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle.

I concur with these sentiments.
We are 'Birds on the same twig'.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 14 Feb 22 1.54pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Eze is a fantastic prospect and when on form can glide past opponents, however, he can quite often go missing in games and not sure he has the workrate for a midfield position.

His best two games last season were v Sheffield Utd, who were a championship team.

This season he is coming back from a big injury so he needs time and patience. Recent games v Millwall and BHA show he is still off the pace

Agree with your Post, though you Could say the same(in bold) about Olise.. his best 2 games were in the Cup; Milwall and Hartlepool.

Vieira is managing both well.


 


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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 14 Feb 22 3.09pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Agree with your Post, though you Could say the same(in bold) about Olise.. his best 2 games were in the Cup; Milwall and Hartlepool.

Vieira is managing both well.


I think that's a tad harsh on Olise. He has 6 goal involvements in 564 league minutes. He only averages 33 minutes per league appearance too so he hits the ground running.

He can go quiet in games, I remember a start against Vila(?) which was way off his best, but he's got that Clinton Morrison quality of delivering a moment or two which the rest of the squad combined has struggled with in recent weeks.

 


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Originally posted by ambrose7

I think that's a tad harsh on Olise. He has 6 goal involvements in 564 league minutes. He only averages 33 minutes per league appearance too so he hits the ground running.

He can go quiet in games, I remember a start against Vila(?) which was way off his best, but he's got that Clinton Morrison quality of delivering a moment or two which the rest of the squad combined has struggled with in recent weeks.

Not trying to Be harsh on Olise, Just trying to show a comparison. He's definately been a good 'super sub' vs tiring legs, where he's Started he hasn't had the Same impact.. granted he hasn't started much.

But he's young, and has obvious quality.

 


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