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npn Crowborough 06 Feb 14 1.07pm
Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 12.44pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 12.42pm Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 12.38pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 10.35am Quote npn at 06 Feb 2014 9.35am I can't wait for a couple of players to come out, then we can stop banging on about it. The sexuality, religious belief, personal hygiene habits, and dietary requirements of players doesn't matter a toss to me so long as they can play football. Our players will still be supported by our fans if they come out, players for other teams will still receive dogs abuse from our fans whether they come out or not. I remember (in no particular order) * he's got a tea towel on his head (Sodje at Crewe?) * he's got a pineaplle on his head (can't remember his name - dodgy haircut) * Nicky someone who's name eludes me - played for England I think, every time he came to take a corner getting abused about his weight (to the extent that he lifted his shirt at one stage to reveal a pretty impressive six-pack) just get it over and done with already! As Lisa Simpson said when watching a Pride march with people shouting "we're here, we're queer, get used to it": You're here every year, we ARE used to it The pss taking out of Jason Lee and his pineapple actually affected him quite badly mentally. I remember reading in the past it put him in a bad way in the end. Endlessly banging on about something related to how you are is always going to take a toll, it isn't just harmless. In which case he should simply have grown a pair or cut his f*ing ridiculous hair. He could have worked in a car plant with that or Sainsburys and he would have been ridiculed. As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler Campaign director Lou Englefield added: "This isn't just about players coming out. It's about all of us - including heterosexual players and fans who attend matches week in week out - being willing to speak out and take visible action to challenge prejudice in the game." Challenge what prejudice ?????? I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am) I don't know Dildo, is he big in bananas? Brazillian lad, West Ham tried to sign him on deadline day I never did understand why Jason Lee didn't get his hair cut. Oh, it was Nicky Barnby, by the way (just came to me). So, yes, Jason Lee was affected by people taking the pss out of his hair, so are we just reverting here to a "don't be horrid, Henry" campaign? I've not heard any homophobic abuse directed at players (I can't even recall whether Le Saux copped any when those rumours were flying about). I just don't see this big problem people are campaigning against. Until someone has enough b0llocks to come out, then I'm not sure what will happen. I don't know what experience Justin Fashanu had, but he played on (sort of) for 8 years after his announcement, and clocked up 41 appearances for Orient
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Crowborough 06 Feb 14 1.07pm

Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 12.44pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 12.42pm

Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 12.38pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 10.35am

Quote npn at 06 Feb 2014 9.35am

I can't wait for a couple of players to come out, then we can stop banging on about it.

The sexuality, religious belief, personal hygiene habits, and dietary requirements of players doesn't matter a toss to me so long as they can play football. Our players will still be supported by our fans if they come out, players for other teams will still receive dogs abuse from our fans whether they come out or not.

I remember (in no particular order)
* he's got a tea towel on his head (Sodje at Crewe?)
* he's got a pineaplle on his head (can't remember his name - dodgy haircut)
* Nicky someone who's name eludes me - played for England I think, every time he came to take a corner getting abused about his weight (to the extent that he lifted his shirt at one stage to reveal a pretty impressive six-pack)

just get it over and done with already!

As Lisa Simpson said when watching a Pride march with people shouting "we're here, we're queer, get used to it": You're here every year, we ARE used to it

The p*ss taking out of Jason Lee and his pineapple actually affected him quite badly mentally. I remember reading in the past it put him in a bad way in the end. Endlessly banging on about something related to how you are is always going to take a toll, it isn't just harmless.

In which case he should simply have grown a pair or cut his f***ing ridiculous hair.

He could have worked in a car plant with that or Sainsburys and he would have been ridiculed.

As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces

I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler

Campaign director Lou Englefield added: "This isn't just about players coming out. It's about all of us - including heterosexual players and fans who attend matches week in week out - being willing to speak out and take visible action to challenge prejudice in the game."

Challenge what prejudice ??????

I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am)

I don't know Dildo, is he big in bananas?

Brazillian lad, West Ham tried to sign him on deadline day

I never did understand why Jason Lee didn't get his hair cut.

Oh, it was Nicky Barnby, by the way (just came to me).

So, yes, Jason Lee was affected by people taking the p*ss out of his hair, so are we just reverting here to a "don't be horrid, Henry" campaign?

I've not heard any homophobic abuse directed at players (I can't even recall whether Le Saux copped any when those rumours were flying about). I just don't see this big problem people are campaigning against. Until someone has enough b0llocks to come out, then I'm not sure what will happen. I don't know what experience Justin Fashanu had, but he played on (sort of) for 8 years after his announcement, and clocked up 41 appearances for Orient

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Beastie 06 Feb 14 1.08pm
Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler Campaign director Lou Englefield added: "This isn't just about players coming out. It's about all of us - including heterosexual players and fans who attend matches week in week out - being willing to speak out and take visible action to challenge prejudice in the game." Challenge what prejudice ?????? I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am) Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work.
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06 Feb 14 1.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am

As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces

I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler

Challenge what prejudice ??????

I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am)

Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work.

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pstrutt Busselton, WA 06 Feb 14 1.13pm
Quote Superfly at 06 Feb 2014 10.27am Quote pstrutt at 06 Feb 2014 10.22am Fair point about the campaign, but I don't think Homophobia and rracism are equal issues. You know what they say about men who roll their R's don't you I have a stammer So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.
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Busselton, WA 06 Feb 14 1.13pm

Quote Superfly at 06 Feb 2014 10.27am

Quote pstrutt at 06 Feb 2014 10.22am

Fair point about the campaign, but I don't think Homophobia and rracism are equal issues.

You know what they say about men who roll their R's don't you

I have a stammer

So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

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pstrutt Busselton, WA 06 Feb 14 1.15pm
Quote Beastie at 06 Feb 2014 1.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler Campaign director Lou Englefield added: "This isn't just about players coming out. It's about all of us - including heterosexual players and fans who attend matches week in week out - being willing to speak out and take visible action to challenge prejudice in the game." Challenge what prejudice ?????? I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am) Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work. Agreed. (Although are comaprisons usually known as hospitals?) So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.
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Busselton, WA 06 Feb 14 1.15pm

Quote Beastie at 06 Feb 2014 1.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am

As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces

I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler

Challenge what prejudice ??????

I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am)

Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work.

Agreed. (Although are comaprisons usually known as hospitals?)

So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

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djmobi Oxford 06 Feb 14 1.19pm
Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority. If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite. Typical response.......so you're proud of Palace fans expressing their opinion except me????? I'm a liberal because I don't agree that people campaigning for the rights of gay people should be ridiculed on this forum??? Do you even know what Liberal means??? Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives.
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Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am

Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am

Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority.

If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite.

Typical response.......so you're proud of Palace fans expressing their opinion except me????? I'm a liberal because I don't agree that people campaigning for the rights of gay people should be ridiculed on this forum??? Do you even know what Liberal means???

Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 06 Feb 14 1.28pm
When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity.
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Landrindod, Wales 06 Feb 14 1.28pm

When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity.

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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Feb 14 1.32pm
Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 1.19pm Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority. If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite. Typical response.......so you're proud of Palace fans expressing their opinion except me????? I'm a liberal because I don't agree that people campaigning for the rights of gay people should be ridiculed on this forum??? Do you even know what Liberal means??? Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives. Just out of curiosity what rights haven't gay people got that they feel are very important right now and should have? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 06 Feb 14 1.32pm

Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 1.19pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am

Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am

Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority.

If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite.

Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives.

Just out of curiosity what rights haven't gay people got that they feel are very important right now and should have?

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 06 Feb 14 1.33pm
Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 1.19pm Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority. If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite. Typical response.......so you're proud of Palace fans expressing their opinion except me????? I'm a liberal because I don't agree that people campaigning for the rights of gay people should be ridiculed on this forum??? Do you even know what Liberal means??? Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives. What gay rights are being challenged at football ??? Edit: Kerms, beat me to the punch yet again !! Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 1.34pm) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 06 Feb 14 1.33pm

Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 1.19pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 06 Feb 2014 10.55am

Quote djmobi at 06 Feb 2014 10.50am

Some of the stupid homophobic bulls*** that people spout on these kinds of threads makes me ashamed to be a Palace fan sometimes.......i'm glad you idiots are the minority.

If you dont like it why not just f##k off and read the Guardian instead.Im actually proud that many of our fans make their own mind up on issues rather than be brainwashed by the liberal elite.

Looks like a few people on here have intelligence at the same level as their understanding and compassion for how other human being choose to live their lives.

What gay rights are being challenged at football ???

Edit: Kerms, beat me to the punch yet again !!

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 1.34pm)

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 06 Feb 14 1.35pm
Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity. Oh dear had it been a punctuation error, rather than spelling, that would have been perfect. Agree with your general sentiments, though!
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Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm

When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity.

Oh dear had it been a punctuation error, rather than spelling, that would have been perfect.

Agree with your general sentiments, though!

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turbohorsebox Coulsdon 06 Feb 14 1.37pm
Quote pstrutt at 06 Feb 2014 1.15pm Quote Beastie at 06 Feb 2014 1.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler Campaign director Lou Englefield added: "This isn't just about players coming out. It's about all of us - including heterosexual players and fans who attend matches week in week out - being willing to speak out and take visible action to challenge prejudice in the game." Challenge what prejudice ?????? I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am) Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work. Agreed. (Although are comaprisons usually known as hospitals?) Brilliant!! Probably hospices though. All good. Nothing bad.
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Coulsdon 06 Feb 14 1.37pm

Quote pstrutt at 06 Feb 2014 1.15pm

Quote Beastie at 06 Feb 2014 1.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 10.48am

As for this campaign - anything that raises equality is obviously laudable - although I am struggling to understand where this 'prejudice' and homophobia actually lies on the terraces

I would suggest the problem lies more within clubs, players and the meejia... Graeme Le Saux wrote a good piece about his experiences, especially with Scouse Cocaine king Robbie Fowler

Challenge what prejudice ??????

I remember a young John Barnes being pelted with bananas at Everton - I have yet to see a footballer coming under fire from a hail of dildo's when he is trying to take a corner

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 10.57am)

Top post. The never-ending comaprisons with racism in football don't work.

Agreed. (Although are comaprisons usually known as hospitals?)

Brilliant!! Probably hospices though.

All good. Nothing bad.

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Plane Bromley 06 Feb 14 1.37pm
Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity. Oh the irony!
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Bromley 06 Feb 14 1.37pm

Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm

When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity.

Oh the irony!

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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Feb 14 1.39pm
Quote Plane at 06 Feb 2014 1.37pm Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity. Oh the irony! Had a bowel operation yesterday. Was left with a semi-colon. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 06 Feb 14 1.39pm

Quote Plane at 06 Feb 2014 1.37pm

Quote adrian b at 06 Feb 2014 1.28pm

When some really believe anti-homphobes are in the minority it's easy to understand why people resort to such offensive remarks. Once they (eventually) realise it is a majority who are not just non-gay but actually support the rights and sensibilties of the gay community, then this whole ridiculous issue will die off. If puntuation-challenged posters cannot see how their shortcoming makes a mockery of their post, then it must be equally difficult for them to take on an even more challenging concept as homosexuallity.

Oh the irony!

Had a bowel operation yesterday. Was left with a semi-colon.

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