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SE9 EAGLE Flag 21 Jan 14 9.08pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Jan 2014 9.03pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 8.03pm

Quote Seth at 21 Jan 2014 6.40pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jan 2014 6.35pm

Quote Seth at 21 Jan 2014 5.58pm

A spirited rant, but what's it got to do with what I asked?

Well, Seth, you generously invited him to make a complete fool of himself and it appears that he has speedily accepted your invitation. Words fail me, but I think if you were looking for a cogent response, you may be waiting a while.

I make you right syd. There may be just a little too much froth in his mouth to allow him to speak coherently.


Been to the gym if thats OK.Anyway Ive always enjoyed winding up people like you.Reminds me of my days at Reading University when we use to travel out to Greenham Common to taunt the verminous lesbians who were posing as CND peace women.Ah happy days and a much worthier foe than the pair of you.....

Janitor or gardener?


Second class division one degree in medieval history as it happens.They wanted to give me a First but were concerned about my obsession with Genghis Khan and frequent absences to watch Palace away games midweek.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Jan 14 9.13pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.03pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Jan 2014 8.54pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 8.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 21 Jan 2014 8.44pm

Greenham Common? Reading Uni? Blimey SE9 you must be nearly 50.

Steady on chap - you'll have a hearty.

I am 50 but still the scourge of the left!Problem with people like Syd n Seth(sounds like a lovely couple!)is that cant see a wind up.Im quite happy to say the most extreme things to get them wetting the bed tonight!Im still on the right and make no apologies for that.


I think you let the cat out of the bag too early...
Still a right wing nutjob is a right wing nutjob

You lot dont like a few home truths do you?Once your arguments and brittle humour fall apart Im a w#####r,nutjob etc.Make your own mind up about things rather than following the herd and get a sense of humour.Anyway isnt it about time you started a thread about more muslims at Palace-maybe a reading of the Koran at half time rather than the Crystals!

I just thought I'd join in with yer cliches.
Home truths? More like ignorant half truths.
Still nice that Dwelboy has been replaced. Are the mods fulfilling quotas? 1 out, 1 in

 

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SE9 EAGLE Flag 21 Jan 14 9.20pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Jan 2014 9.13pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.03pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Jan 2014 8.54pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 8.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 21 Jan 2014 8.44pm

Greenham Common? Reading Uni? Blimey SE9 you must be nearly 50.

Steady on chap - you'll have a hearty.

I am 50 but still the scourge of the left!Problem with people like Syd n Seth(sounds like a lovely couple!)is that cant see a wind up.Im quite happy to say the most extreme things to get them wetting the bed tonight!Im still on the right and make no apologies for that.


I think you let the cat out of the bag too early...
Still a right wing nutjob is a right wing nutjob

You lot dont like a few home truths do you?Once your arguments and brittle humour fall apart Im a w#####r,nutjob etc.Make your own mind up about things rather than following the herd and get a sense of humour.Anyway isnt it about time you started a thread about more muslims at Palace-maybe a reading of the Koran at half time rather than the Crystals!

I just thought I'd join in with yer cliches.
Home truths? More like ignorant half truths.
Still nice that Dwelboy has been replaced. Are the mods fulfilling quotas? 1 out, 1 in


You would love that wouldnt you?Silence any dissent and I thought we lived in a democracy...

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 21 Jan 14 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 21 Jan 2014 8.58am

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 6.51am

It's in the intention and how it is recieved, the intention is that Jewish and non Jewish Spurs fans are supporting the Jewish spurs fans. When Spurs still get songs about gas chambers then I think the intention is honourable.
However, if the Jewish Spurs Fans are uncomfortable with it, then however honourable the intentions it is misguided.

What the hell do they sing Ketteridge? Some kind of 'we won't forget them' type song?

Sounds like leaning into a punch, setting up opposition fans for some very nasty responses.

And if you really would shout something like 'gas them' EaglesMad then you have a childlike conception of what is acceptable and a complete inability to grasp the shame of our grandparents' generation.

Sorry that misses the wider point of what I was saying. If Spurs fans are singing 'Yid Army' to set up opposition fans for nasty response then the intention is not honourable and therefore not acceptable. The point being that any action is judged by intention and how it received by the recipient and society in general.
Anelka claims he did intended to offend Jew but used the a gesture in support of a friend the general feeling is that the gesture was anti-Semitic and offence.

We also need to stop the thinking that Anti-Semitism, Racism etc is of our grandparents generation but an on going problem.

 


One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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SE9 EAGLE Flag 21 Jan 14 9.26pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.20pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Jan 2014 8.58am

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 6.51am

It's in the intention and how it is recieved, the intention is that Jewish and non Jewish Spurs fans are supporting the Jewish spurs fans. When Spurs still get songs about gas chambers then I think the intention is honourable.
However, if the Jewish Spurs Fans are uncomfortable with it, then however honourable the intentions it is misguided.

What the hell do they sing Ketteridge? Some kind of 'we won't forget them' type song?

Sounds like leaning into a punch, setting up opposition fans for some very nasty responses.

And if you really would shout something like 'gas them' EaglesMad then you have a childlike conception of what is acceptable and a complete inability to grasp the shame of our grandparents' generation.

Sorry that misses the wider point of what I was saying. If Spurs fans are singing 'Yid Army' to set up opposition fans for nasty response then the intention is not honourable and therefore not acceptable. The point being that any action is judged by intention and how it received by the recipient and society in general.
Anelka claims he did intended to offend Jew but used the a gesture in support of a friend the general feeling is that the gesture was anti-Semitic and offence.

We also need to stop the thinking that Anti-Semitism, Racism etc is of our grandparents generation but an on going problem.


What was the last time you saw anything racist or anti semitic at Palace?A lot of its in your head.I cant remember one occasion in the last decade at least and maybe longer than that...

 

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View moaner's Profile moaner Flag Westerham 21 Jan 14 9.29pm Send a Private Message to moaner Add moaner as a friend

Quote Elpis at 20 Jan 2014 10.47pm

No , Im saying nobody gives a monkies


That's not fair on monkeys!

 


Everyone is entitled to my opinions

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 21 Jan 14 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.26pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.20pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Jan 2014 8.58am

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 6.51am

It's in the intention and how it is recieved, the intention is that Jewish and non Jewish Spurs fans are supporting the Jewish spurs fans. When Spurs still get songs about gas chambers then I think the intention is honourable.
However, if the Jewish Spurs Fans are uncomfortable with it, then however honourable the intentions it is misguided.

What the hell do they sing Ketteridge? Some kind of 'we won't forget them' type song?

Sounds like leaning into a punch, setting up opposition fans for some very nasty responses.

And if you really would shout something like 'gas them' EaglesMad then you have a childlike conception of what is acceptable and a complete inability to grasp the shame of our grandparents' generation.

Sorry that misses the wider point of what I was saying. If Spurs fans are singing 'Yid Army' to set up opposition fans for nasty response then the intention is not honourable and therefore not acceptable. The point being that any action is judged by intention and how it received by the recipient and society in general.
Anelka claims he did intended to offend Jew but used the a gesture in support of a friend the general feeling is that the gesture was anti-Semitic and offence.

We also need to stop the thinking that Anti-Semitism, Racism etc is of our grandparents generation but an on going problem.


What was the last time you saw anything racist or anti semitic at Palace?A lot of its in your head.I cant remember one occasion in the last decade at least and maybe longer than that...

Probably more valid to ask the question to some one who is n't a white bloke but actually I'm not talking about Palace or football but a the general impression that racism or anti semitism stopped with our Grandad's generation. Wish it was in my head but unfortunatley it is not,

 


One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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SE9 EAGLE Flag 21 Jan 14 9.44pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.42pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.26pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.20pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Jan 2014 8.58am

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 6.51am

It's in the intention and how it is recieved, the intention is that Jewish and non Jewish Spurs fans are supporting the Jewish spurs fans. When Spurs still get songs about gas chambers then I think the intention is honourable.
However, if the Jewish Spurs Fans are uncomfortable with it, then however honourable the intentions it is misguided.

What the hell do they sing Ketteridge? Some kind of 'we won't forget them' type song?

Sounds like leaning into a punch, setting up opposition fans for some very nasty responses.

And if you really would shout something like 'gas them' EaglesMad then you have a childlike conception of what is acceptable and a complete inability to grasp the shame of our grandparents' generation.

Sorry that misses the wider point of what I was saying. If Spurs fans are singing 'Yid Army' to set up opposition fans for nasty response then the intention is not honourable and therefore not acceptable. The point being that any action is judged by intention and how it received by the recipient and society in general.
Anelka claims he did intended to offend Jew but used the a gesture in support of a friend the general feeling is that the gesture was anti-Semitic and offence.

We also need to stop the thinking that Anti-Semitism, Racism etc is of our grandparents generation but an on going problem.


What was the last time you saw anything racist or anti semitic at Palace?A lot of its in your head.I cant remember one occasion in the last decade at least and maybe longer than that...

Probably more valid to ask the question to some one who is n't a white bloke but actually I'm not talking about Palace or football but a the general impression that racism or anti semitism stopped with our Grandad's generation. Wish it was in my head but unfortunatley it is not,

Maybe your crusade doesnt belong on PALACE TALK?

 

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I think this all boils down to intent. In the case of chanting "Yid army" that is very difficult to establish.

The chant is meant to self identify a group of supporters, not to cast aspersions on a racial/religious group. As such, intent is missing

It is similar to people calling each other "My ******". There are times when the word ****** is a racial taunt and those where it is used in a group for self identification. Yid army is the latter case in my opinion.

Prejudice can't exist without intent, and in this case the intent is to foster group identity, not to promote racial hatred.

 

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Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.44pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.42pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.26pm

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 9.20pm

Quote Mapletree at 21 Jan 2014 8.58am

Quote Ketteridge at 21 Jan 2014 6.51am

It's in the intention and how it is recieved, the intention is that Jewish and non Jewish Spurs fans are supporting the Jewish spurs fans. When Spurs still get songs about gas chambers then I think the intention is honourable.
However, if the Jewish Spurs Fans are uncomfortable with it, then however honourable the intentions it is misguided.

What the hell do they sing Ketteridge? Some kind of 'we won't forget them' type song?

Sounds like leaning into a punch, setting up opposition fans for some very nasty responses.

And if you really would shout something like 'gas them' EaglesMad then you have a childlike conception of what is acceptable and a complete inability to grasp the shame of our grandparents' generation.

Sorry that misses the wider point of what I was saying. If Spurs fans are singing 'Yid Army' to set up opposition fans for nasty response then the intention is not honourable and therefore not acceptable. The point being that any action is judged by intention and how it received by the recipient and society in general.
Anelka claims he did intended to offend Jew but used the a gesture in support of a friend the general feeling is that the gesture was anti-Semitic and offence.

We also need to stop the thinking that Anti-Semitism, Racism etc is of our grandparents generation but an on going problem.


What was the last time you saw anything racist or anti semitic at Palace?A lot of its in your head.I cant remember one occasion in the last decade at least and maybe longer than that...

Probably more valid to ask the question to some one who is n't a white bloke but actually I'm not talking about Palace or football but a the general impression that racism or anti semitism stopped with our Grandad's generation. Wish it was in my head but unfortunatley it is not,

Maybe your crusade doesnt belong on PALACE TALK?


The whole thread has only a loosest connection to Palace talk but that is where it is so that's where I'll respond.

 


One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 9.08pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Jan 2014 9.03pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 8.03pm

Quote Seth at 21 Jan 2014 6.40pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jan 2014 6.35pm

Quote Seth at 21 Jan 2014 5.58pm

A spirited rant, but what's it got to do with what I asked?

Well, Seth, you generously invited him to make a complete fool of himself and it appears that he has speedily accepted your invitation. Words fail me, but I think if you were looking for a cogent response, you may be waiting a while.

I make you right syd. There may be just a little too much froth in his mouth to allow him to speak coherently.


Been to the gym if thats OK.Anyway Ive always enjoyed winding up people like you.Reminds me of my days at Reading University when we use to travel out to Greenham Common to taunt the verminous lesbians who were posing as CND peace women.Ah happy days and a much worthier foe than the pair of you.....

Janitor or gardener?


Second class division one degree in medieval history as it happens.They wanted to give me a First but were concerned about my obsession with Genghis Khan and frequent absences to watch Palace away games midweek.

Medieval history.

The irony.

 


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Eagles-Mad Flag Romford Essex 21 Jan 14 9.58pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Jan 2014 5.24pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 5.14pm

Quote Ian J at 21 Jan 2014 5.07pm

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 21 Jan 2014 5.05pm

Quote Eagles-Mad at 21 Jan 2014 5.00pm

The amount of Politically Correct do gooders in this country is unbearable.


And Im afraid we have got more than our fair share at Palace.I would actually feel sorry for them if their views werent so corrosive to our national interest....

I suppose that's about par for the course from someone who feels like you do:-

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 20 Jan 2014 5.11pm

Nothing else in any other sport compares to a goal either for or against.And the there is the singing,extreme language and punch ups!


That was posted tongue in cheek but of course a po faced leftie like you would not appreciate that would you?


Given the choice I would rather be a po faced leftie than a right wing thug

I would rather be a right wing thug then a left wing arse lick snob but thats just me.

 

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