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7@burnley79 Battersea 24 Feb 14 2.27am
Its simple unless we start to beat the better sides which we have to play at home now we will be relegated. We are not going to go away to the lesser teams and get much joy overall. We may nick 1 or 2 draws and maybe 1 away win, with our remaining away fixtures, but unless we start to beat the top sides which we have at home its Championship football next season. We have to start to beat the top 8 sides at home with our remaining matches
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7@burnley79

Battersea 24 Feb 14 2.27am

Its simple unless we start to beat the better sides which we have to play at home now we will be relegated.
We are not going to go away to the lesser teams and get much joy overall. We may nick 1 or 2 draws and maybe 1 away win, with our remaining away fixtures, but unless we start to beat the top sides which we have at home its Championship football next season.
We have to start to beat the top 8 sides at home with our remaining matches

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Feb 14 6.18am
Quote 7@burnley79 at 24 Feb 2014 2.27am Its simple unless we start to beat the better sides which we have to play at home now we will be relegated. We are not going to go away to the lesser teams and get much joy overall. We may nick 1 or 2 draws and maybe 1 away win, with our remaining away fixtures, but unless we start to beat the top sides which we have at home its Championship football next season. We have to start to beat the top 8 sides at home with our remaining matches We will have a much better chance of wins away at Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham than home wins against Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool I think. Play like we did first half at White Hart Lane or at Man City then 9 points away from Selhurst is not impossible. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 24 Feb 14 6.18am

Quote 7@burnley79 at 24 Feb 2014 2.27am

We will have a much better chance of wins away at Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham than home wins against Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool I think.

Play like we did first half at White Hart Lane or at Man City then 9 points away from Selhurst is not impossible.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 24 Feb 14 8.23am
Quote Willo at 23 Feb 2014 6.38pm I might be the ultimate pessimist but whichever way I look at it I really cannot see us surviving.I realise some TV pundits have said we will stay up- lets hope they are right and I am hopelessly wrong ! What a doom and gloom monger you are, we still have to play 5 of the 8 other teams in the mix, personally I think we have a great chance of survival, we've averaged a point a game none of the sides below us have. it's about how we do against those clubs around us that will decide our fate. Of our last 12 games we have a real chance of winning 6, of the other 6 we could pinch a point from 3 of those, only Man C, Chelsea, and Liverpool are bankers for no points.
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Deurne Holland 24 Feb 14 8.23am

Quote Willo at 23 Feb 2014 6.38pm

I might be the ultimate pessimist but whichever way I look at it I really cannot see us surviving.I realise some TV pundits have said we will stay up- lets hope they are right and I am hopelessly wrong !

What a doom and gloom monger you are, we still have to play 5 of the 8 other teams in the mix, personally I think we have a great chance of survival, we've averaged a point a game none of the sides below us have. it's about how we do against those clubs around us that will decide our fate.

Of our last 12 games we have a real chance of winning 6, of the other 6 we could pinch a point from 3 of those, only Man C, Chelsea, and Liverpool are bankers for no points.

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Catfish Burgess Hill 24 Feb 14 8.47am
I think 3rd from bottom will go down on goal difference and that team will most likely be the team with the 3rd worst goal difference. WE are in danger of being that team. Must win and win better. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 24 Feb 14 8.47am

I think 3rd from bottom will go down on goal difference and that team will most likely be the team with the 3rd worst goal difference. WE are in danger of being that team. Must win and win better.

Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial

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james03 Bangkok 24 Feb 14 9.06am
I have said it before (countless times) and will say it again. Our record against the bottom 11 teams away from home is played 5, won two, lost three. Two of the three defeats were pre TP. We now have five games left, a far superior manager to IH and a better team thanks to the January signings. Winning three of our away games should be very possible. Getting a draw or two on top not unlikely. I will settle for ten points from the away games. That puts us on 36 points. We should beat Villa at home and Southampton have little to play for. That is six more points putting us on 42. Anthing else we get is bonus but irrelevant to survival. We will stay up, just have some faith and stop fretting over the top nine teams. Edited by james03 (24 Feb 2014 9.08am) The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx
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Bangkok 24 Feb 14 9.06am

I have said it before (countless times) and will say it again.

Our record against the bottom 11 teams away from home is played 5, won two, lost three. Two of the three defeats were pre TP.

We now have five games left, a far superior manager to IH and a better team thanks to the January signings.

Winning three of our away games should be very possible. Getting a draw or two on top not unlikely. I will settle for ten points from the away games.

That puts us on 36 points.

We should beat Villa at home and Southampton have little to play for. That is six more points putting us on 42.

Anthing else we get is bonus but irrelevant to survival.

We will stay up, just have some faith and stop fretting over the top nine teams.

Edited by james03 (24 Feb 2014 9.08am)

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

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silvertop Portishead 24 Feb 14 9.13am
Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Feb 2014 2.11pm Quote Aj's_Magic_Hat at 10 Feb 2014 2.03pm Quote Johnny Byrne at 10 Feb 2014 1.48pm After yesterday's games, some interesting facts and stand out run ins. Sunderland have away games at Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man C, Man U, Norwich and Spurs. Norwich last 4 games are Liverpool Man U (h) Chelsea Arsenal (h) W Ham last 4 games are CPFC (h) WBA Spurs (h) Man C CPFC only has Everton and Newcastle away in remaining 7 away games - the rest are at Swansea, Sunderland, Cardiff, West Ham and Fulham. We have this in our destiny to survive (and hopefully by the time we play West Ham). I still believe that its more down to other teams dropping points than us getting them, the problem seems to be that everyone else gets good results against side that they should not even put up a point against. But if we can stay above Norwich, fulham and sunderland between now and April think we will be ok. You're implying that it's not in our hands. It is. This whole concept of other teams around us getting decent results to our detriment is a myth. We stay up by getting points on the board, not by hoping that those around us f*ck up. It really is that simple. Mathematically, is it not both?
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Portishead 24 Feb 14 9.13am

Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Feb 2014 2.11pm

Quote Aj's_Magic_Hat at 10 Feb 2014 2.03pm

Quote Johnny Byrne at 10 Feb 2014 1.48pm

After yesterday's games, some interesting facts and stand out run ins.

Sunderland have away games at Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man C, Man U, Norwich and Spurs.

Norwich last 4 games are Liverpool Man U (h) Chelsea Arsenal (h)

W Ham last 4 games are CPFC (h) WBA Spurs (h) Man C

CPFC only has Everton and Newcastle away in remaining 7 away games - the rest are at Swansea, Sunderland, Cardiff, West Ham and Fulham.

We have this in our destiny to survive (and hopefully by the time we play West Ham).

I still believe that its more down to other teams dropping points than us getting them, the problem seems to be that everyone else gets good results against side that they should not even put up a point against. But if we can stay above Norwich, fulham and sunderland between now and April think we will be ok.

You're implying that it's not in our hands. It is. This whole concept of other teams around us getting decent results to our detriment is a myth.

We stay up by getting points on the board, not by hoping that those around us f*ck up. It really is that simple.

Mathematically, is it not both?

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silvertop Portishead 24 Feb 14 9.15am
Quote Sg Bilko at 24 Feb 2014 8.23am Quote Willo at 23 Feb 2014 6.38pm I might be the ultimate pessimist but whichever way I look at it I really cannot see us surviving.I realise some TV pundits have said we will stay up- lets hope they are right and I am hopelessly wrong ! What a doom and gloom monger you are, we still have to play 5 of the 8 other teams in the mix, personally I think we have a great chance of survival, we've averaged a point a game none of the sides below us have. it's about how we do against those clubs around us that will decide our fate. Of our last 12 games we have a real chance of winning 6, of the other 6 we could pinch a point from 3 of those, only Man C, Chelsea, and Liverpool are bankers for no points. ...and Everton
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silvertop

Portishead 24 Feb 14 9.15am

Quote Sg Bilko at 24 Feb 2014 8.23am

Quote Willo at 23 Feb 2014 6.38pm

Of our last 12 games we have a real chance of winning 6, of the other 6 we could pinch a point from 3 of those, only Man C, Chelsea, and Liverpool are bankers for no points.

...and Everton

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peterg Anerley 24 Feb 14 9.42am
Yet another troubling result by our rivals, this time Norwich beating Spurs. Our rivals keep winning these matches with ludicrous luck: their keeper makes a string of miraculous saves, the oppo keep missing blinding chances. Same again yesterday, with Adebayor and Soldano missing when it looked easier to score. When is this going to happen for us? The right place at the right time
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Anerley 24 Feb 14 9.42am

Yet another troubling result by our rivals, this time Norwich beating Spurs. Our rivals keep winning these matches with ludicrous luck: their keeper makes a string of miraculous saves, the oppo keep missing blinding chances. Same again yesterday, with Adebayor and Soldano missing when it looked easier to score. When is this going to happen for us?

The right place at the right time

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Palace_denizen filed under " time wasters " 24 Feb 14 10.13am
Fulham and Cardiff are doomed. So its a 1 in 4 chance that we will take the last relegation place. Pretty good odds for an Eagle and especially given the woeful start under Holloway. . and if we do survive in the Prem and keep Pulis, we will be safe by the end of March next season. Laughing at Charlton - Every London Clyub's fourth or fifth most hated team - [Link]
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filed under " time wasters " 24 Feb 14 10.13am

Fulham and Cardiff are doomed. So its a 1 in 4 chance that we will take the last relegation place. Pretty good odds for an Eagle and especially given the woeful start under Holloway.
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and if we do survive in the Prem and keep Pulis, we will be safe by the end of March next season.

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7@burnley79 Battersea 24 Feb 14 10.21am
Quote Kermit8 at 24 Feb 2014 6.18am Quote 7@burnley79 at 24 Feb 2014 2.27am Its simple unless we start to beat the better sides which we have to play at home now we will be relegated. We are not going to go away to the lesser teams and get much joy overall. We may nick 1 or 2 draws and maybe 1 away win, with our remaining away fixtures, but unless we start to beat the top sides which we have at home its Championship football next season. We have to start to beat the top 8 sides at home with our remaining matches We will have a much better chance of wins away at Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham than home wins against Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool I think. Play like we did first half at White Hart Lane or at Man City then 9 points away from Selhurst is not impossible. I agree in principal kermit, but we have to understand Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham are at home and they are also fighting for their Premiership survival. These games will be just a difficult as the home ties of Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool. So we have to get the points from somewhere. Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham aren't going to just roll over, in fact i will be very suprised if we get more than 35% possession in these games. They will be looking at these games against Palace as must win games.
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7@burnley79

Battersea 24 Feb 14 10.21am

Quote Kermit8 at 24 Feb 2014 6.18am

Quote 7@burnley79 at 24 Feb 2014 2.27am

We will have a much better chance of wins away at Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham than home wins against Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool I think.

Play like we did first half at White Hart Lane or at Man City then 9 points away from Selhurst is not impossible.

I agree in principal kermit, but we have to understand
Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham are at home and they are also fighting for their Premiership survival. These games will be just a difficult as the home ties of Man City and Chelsea and Liverpool. So we have to get the points from somewhere. Sunderland Cardiff West Ham and Fulham aren't going to just roll over, in fact i will be very suprised if we get more than 35% possession in these games. They will be looking at these games against Palace as must win games.

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cpj Kent 24 Feb 14 10.31am
The problem seems to be that whilst we have taken just 1 point from 12 games against teams in the top 9, others around us are picking up points in these matches - e.g. Norwich drew with Man C and beat Spurs, West Ham drew at Chelsea, WBA won at Man U earlier in the season. We have to start picking up the odd point or two from these games, and may well need a surprise win against Chelsea, Liverpool or Man City to keep us up.
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Kent 24 Feb 14 10.31am

The problem seems to be that whilst we have taken just 1 point from 12 games against teams in the top 9, others around us are picking up points in these matches - e.g. Norwich drew with Man C and beat Spurs, West Ham drew at Chelsea, WBA won at Man U earlier in the season. We have to start picking up the odd point or two from these games, and may well need a surprise win against Chelsea, Liverpool or Man City to keep us up.

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PJH Colchester 24 Feb 14 12.26pm
Quote cpj at 24 Feb 2014 10.31am The problem seems to be that whilst we have taken just 1 point from 12 games against teams in the top 9, others around us are picking up points in these matches - e.g. Norwich drew with Man C and beat Spurs, West Ham drew at Chelsea, WBA won at Man U earlier in the season. We have to start picking up the odd point or two from these games, and may well need a surprise win against Chelsea, Liverpool or Man City to keep us up. Totally agree with this. I know it's in our hands and we don't need to look at other results too much but Naarjjj beating Spurs yesterday was a very bad result for us. We need that 'big' win that all other teams have had. We cannot rely on picking up wins at the places we'll be going, they'll be fighting for their lives as well. I think we'll be ok if we can play like we have been, but after yesterday result and for no apparent reason I'm more worried than I've been for ages.
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Colchester 24 Feb 14 12.26pm

Quote cpj at 24 Feb 2014 10.31am

Totally agree with this. I know it's in our hands and we don't need to look at other results too much but Naarjjj beating Spurs yesterday was a very bad result for us. We need that 'big' win that all other teams have had. We cannot rely on picking up wins at the places we'll be going, they'll be fighting for their lives as well. I think we'll be ok if we can play like we have been, but after yesterday result and for no apparent reason I'm more worried than I've been for ages.

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