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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 26 Mar 14 2.46pm
The only question to ask is 'is the referee cheating'? We all make mistakes, players, goalies, managers, even spectators. The only thing we should worry about is if someone is being disingenuous.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 26 Mar 14 2.46pm

The only question to ask is 'is the referee cheating'? We all make mistakes, players, goalies, managers, even spectators. The only thing we should worry about is if someone is being disingenuous.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Mar 14 2.46pm
Was it against Sheffield Utd at home about 15 years ago when we scored at the death and it was disallowed because the ref had blown for time?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 26 Mar 14 2.46pm

Was it against Sheffield Utd at home about 15 years ago when we scored at the death and it was disallowed because the ref had blown for time?

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Mar 14 3.19pm
Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 2.43pm Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate. Oh goody...... Id happily pay to watch you do better That is a little bit like me saying 'Dikgacoi is not the best passer' and you replying 'I'd like to see you do better.' You do not have to be a professional to make an honest assessment of someone else. Well I get paid to professionally assess Referee's, after 26 years refereeing to a very high standard. All I said "id like to see you do better" If you think you can do better, become a ref I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Mar 14 3.19pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 2.43pm

Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm

Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate.

Oh goody......

Id happily pay to watch you do better

That is a little bit like me saying 'Dikgacoi is not the best passer' and you replying 'I'd like to see you do better.'

You do not have to be a professional to make an honest assessment of someone else.

Well I get paid to professionally assess Referee's, after 26 years refereeing to a very high standard.

All I said "id like to see you do better" If you think you can do better, become a ref

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
[Link]

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Beaverwilly Croydon 26 Mar 14 3.21pm
Quote nickgusset at 26 Mar 2014 2.46pm Was it against Sheffield Utd at home about 15 years ago when we scored at the death and it was disallowed because the ref had blown for time? I remember watching Palace as a kid and I think this happened to us at home against Leeds in the FA cup. The match ended 2-2 and we went on to lose a replay at Elland Road (I think). If I had to guess (can't be @rsed to look it up, I would say it was around 1997). Whenever I feel the need to exercise, I lie down until it goes away.
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Beaverwilly

Croydon 26 Mar 14 3.21pm

Quote nickgusset at 26 Mar 2014 2.46pm

Was it against Sheffield Utd at home about 15 years ago when we scored at the death and it was disallowed because the ref had blown for time?

I remember watching Palace as a kid and I think this happened to us at home against Leeds in the FA cup.

The match ended 2-2 and we went on to lose a replay at Elland Road (I think). If I had to guess (can't be @rsed to look it up, I would say it was around 1997).

Whenever I feel the need to exercise, I lie down until it goes away.

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pstrutt Busselton, WA 26 Mar 14 3.38pm
I'm not bitter, but I believe we should check out his finances. So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.
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pstrutt

Busselton, WA 26 Mar 14 3.38pm

I'm not bitter, but I believe we should check out his finances.

So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 26 Mar 14 3.41pm
I guess you will always get incidents involving refs,I tend to go with the view that refs do not understand the game but know the laws. Last night ,Michael Oliver who is in the top two or three refs awarded a yellow card to Fellaini for a dreadful foul that should have received a manslaughter charge. Foy,Taylor and Atkinson are very inconsistent and Webb for some reason is highly rated. The players are cheating all the time,wrestling obstruction and shirt pulling for example have become the norm.We need strong and decent refs to sort those problems out. In life you have to earn respect,its not a god given right and refs would earn more respect if they showed more consistency and stopped pandering to 'name' players.Thankfully ferguson has retired so we no longer suffer the lick your arse Mr ferguson that blighted so many games.
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Joe Bloggs

Nr Norwich 26 Mar 14 3.41pm

I guess you will always get incidents involving refs,I tend to go with the view that refs do not understand the game but know the laws.

Last night ,Michael Oliver who is in the top two or three refs awarded a yellow card to Fellaini for a dreadful foul that should have received a manslaughter charge.

Foy,Taylor and Atkinson are very inconsistent and Webb for some reason is highly rated.

The players are cheating all the time,wrestling obstruction and shirt pulling for example have become the norm.We need strong and decent refs to sort those problems out.

In life you have to earn respect,its not a god given right and refs would earn more respect if they showed more consistency and stopped pandering to 'name' players.Thankfully ferguson has retired so we no longer suffer the lick your arse Mr ferguson that blighted so many games.

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Bitter Harpenden 26 Mar 14 4.48pm
Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 10.10am Whilst I wont get involved in a meaningless discussion about the rights &/or wrongs of 'time keeping'...... In the 1st round of the 1978 world cup, welsh ref Clive Thomas famously denied Zico of Brasil a winning goal 'at the death' V's Sweden. A corner was awarded to Brasil & as Zico rose to head the ball into the net, Mr Thomas blew for full time. As the Laws of the game state, a FULL 90 mins must be played, injury/extra/over time is ALWAYS a MINIMUM of time to be added on. Is my memory playing tricks or do I recall the early days of Sky Sports used to summarise how many minutes the ball was actually in play? From memory it is/was typically around 60 minutes, so the idea that a referee can so precisely time the match to blow the whistle with the ball in flight is ludicrous. Rugby Union has it right - the match can only end when the ball is dead, and it can't be dead as a consequence of foul play.
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Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 10.10am

Whilst I wont get involved in a meaningless discussion about the rights &/or wrongs of 'time keeping'......

In the 1st round of the 1978 world cup, welsh ref Clive Thomas famously denied Zico of Brasil a winning goal 'at the death' V's Sweden.

A corner was awarded to Brasil & as Zico rose to head the ball into the net, Mr Thomas blew for full time. As the Laws of the game state, a FULL 90 mins must be played, injury/extra/over time is ALWAYS a MINIMUM of time to be added on.

Is my memory playing tricks or do I recall the early days of Sky Sports used to summarise how many minutes the ball was actually in play? From memory it is/was typically around 60 minutes, so the idea that a referee can so precisely time the match to blow the whistle with the ball in flight is ludicrous. Rugby Union has it right - the match can only end when the ball is dead, and it can't be dead as a consequence of foul play.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 26 Mar 14 5.14pm
What's the worst thing in all of this... Swansea. who are only 5 points clear have a striker that has scored 20 goals this season!!!!!!!!! If only This was once a quality forum....
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Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 26 Mar 14 5.14pm

What's the worst thing in all of this...

Swansea. who are only 5 points clear have a striker that has scored 20 goals this season!!!!!!!!!

If only

This was once a quality forum....

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jcreedy 26 Mar 14 5.47pm
Remember that Andy Roberts shot against Portsmouth (1995?!) that was flying into the top corner from 25 yards, when the ref blew for full-time? Truly horrible! It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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jcreedy

26 Mar 14 5.47pm

Remember that Andy Roberts shot against Portsmouth (1995?!) that was flying into the top corner from 25 yards, when the ref blew for full-time?

Truly horrible!

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

- John Bostock (Nov 2007)

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 26 Mar 14 5.49pm
Quote goodersgold at 26 Mar 2014 2.06pm Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate. Oh goody...... Id happily pay to watch you do better Not a chance you only get the job if you have never played the game at any sort of standard. Most were Prefects at school or the ones who never got picked at PE who were seen running around the field in black plimsolls doing aeroplane impressions. Like Dwight Gayle you mean.
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WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 26 Mar 14 5.49pm

Quote goodersgold at 26 Mar 2014 2.06pm

Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm

Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate.

Oh goody......

Id happily pay to watch you do better

Not a chance you only get the job if you have never played the game at any sort of standard.
Most were Prefects at school or the ones who never got picked at PE who were seen running around the field in black plimsolls doing aeroplane impressions.

Like Dwight Gayle you mean.

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goodersgold Hastings 26 Mar 14 6.00pm
Quote EastEndPalace at 26 Mar 2014 5.49pm Quote goodersgold at 26 Mar 2014 2.06pm Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate. Oh goody...... Id happily pay to watch you do better Not a chance you only get the job if you have never played the game at any sort of standard. Most were Prefects at school or the ones who never got picked at PE who were seen running around the field in black plimsolls doing aeroplane impressions. Like Dwight Gayle you mean. Lol I doubt he does the sound effects The world was a mess but his hair was perfect!
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goodersgold

Hastings 26 Mar 14 6.00pm

Quote EastEndPalace at 26 Mar 2014 5.49pm

Quote goodersgold at 26 Mar 2014 2.06pm

Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm

Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate.

Oh goody......

Id happily pay to watch you do better

Like Dwight Gayle you mean.

Lol
I doubt he does the sound effects

The world was a mess but his hair was perfect!

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Palace15eagle London 26 Mar 14 6.11pm
Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 3.19pm Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 2.43pm Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate. Oh goody...... Id happily pay to watch you do better That is a little bit like me saying 'Dikgacoi is not the best passer' and you replying 'I'd like to see you do better.' You do not have to be a professional to make an honest assessment of someone else. Well I get paid to professionally assess Referee's, after 26 years refereeing to a very high standard. All I said "id like to see you do better" If you think you can do better, become a ref How high a level? Your HOL best newcomer of the year 2013. My twitter account: [Link]
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Palace15eagle

London 26 Mar 14 6.11pm

Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 3.19pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 2.43pm

Quote eagleman13 at 26 Mar 2014 1.46pm

Quote THEMAN_THELEGEND at 26 Mar 2014 1.39pm

Referees and officials ruin matches on a weekly basis. The standard is appalling and it is now at the stage that I truly believe it is deliberate.

Oh goody......

Id happily pay to watch you do better

That is a little bit like me saying 'Dikgacoi is not the best passer' and you replying 'I'd like to see you do better.'

You do not have to be a professional to make an honest assessment of someone else.

Well I get paid to professionally assess Referee's, after 26 years refereeing to a very high standard.

All I said "id like to see you do better" If you think you can do better, become a ref

How high a level?

Your HOL best newcomer of the year 2013.

My twitter account: [Link]

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