I wouldn't say everyone, I certainly don't anyway.

I never could understand how people complain about a service they didn't even pay for to begin with. I think we are one of the few countries in Europe that actually offers a free service.

Pride of South London
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So, people shouldn't complain about the global financial ruin they caused because they didn't charge us for it?

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Seems the person is a real RBS employee...makes it so much better.

Pride of South London
Upper Holmesdale Block P

Sorry I didn't make it clear my mistake, we were talking about working for the bank and the public perception.

Haha NatWest where I was working was always getting complaints about long queues and crap online banking etc.

Where I found working for a bank opened doors for me, it seems it could be the opposite now which is a shame really.

Pride of South London
Upper Holmesdale Block P

The more I hear Brand talk, the more I have my reservations about his views. But the more I hear anyone else talk about Brand, the more I feel sympathy for him.

I'll give you an example. I watched him on Question Time, and I was pretty disappointed in his facile responses, which came across a bit like Owen Jones minus the factual basis. The only time I had any sympathy though was the moment he responded to the fella in the audience asking why he doesn't run for Parliament by saying he's fearful he'll become like them. Yet this was the point most analysts picked up on as being representative of his lack of conviction, resolution, whatever.

But to my mind, the concept that power corrupts was a refreshing one. Because ultimately it does. If you told Obama voters in 2008 that the quality of life for African-Americans would have worsened more under his administration than any modern-day President, they'd have laughed, but that's what happened. Similarly, tell a Lib Dem voter in 2010 that they'd be voting in a party responsible for some of the most Draconian welfare reforms in post-war Britain, they'd have rightly told you to f*ck off.

And before you jump up and say 'ah, but that's due to a number of structural reasons', that's sort of the point. We have supposedly democratic institutions in developed countries which are totally non-representative and which represent power structures beyond any individual or political party's control. If he stood for parliament he would achieve nothing because he could achieve practically nothing, and all he would achieve is satisfying his opponents' suspicions while conforming to their understanding of how social change should be enacted.

There are so many different things I disagree with Brand on but ultimately he attracts scorn from almost every sector of society I fundamentally disagree with, from Polly Toynbee and Johnny Rotten to the Murdoch press and most posters on here. And for that I can't help but be on his side.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

I would pay good money to see a Brand / Goodwin debate on tv

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